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  1. #91
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    NinjaTaru72's Avatar
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    Alessa Ravachi
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I've done df ms dozens of. Times since I've been 50. And every time, unless the new people want to actually skip Cs, I wait for them. You wanna be a healer short? Go for it. I mean sure, most parts can be pushed through if your geared enough or the other healer. Is good enough. But how do you know?
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  2. #92
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    Alphras's Avatar
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    Rojer Alphras
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 70
    There is no point in doing a speedrun via the party finder, as there is no reward. But there is a checkbox for a full story experience in the party finder (see where square is going with that?).

    Edit: The solution would be to enable full groups for the random story dungeons. Than they could do it with the party finder.

    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    Because, when you go df you should expect to deal with that.
    That goes two ways btw.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 06-20-2014 at 01:23 AM.

  3. #93
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Authority View Post
    I wasn't a loud mouth. I didn't say nothing apart from I am not going to skip the scenes. And that is it. Do you want me to beg for it? You seriously want me to beg people so I can have the right to watch the main story I am playing which includes scenes?
    I don't believe for one second that you weren't a loudmouth, entitled brat to the rest of the party. First you said that you didn't reply and just ignored them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Authority View Post
    One person states "Please do not watch the cutscenes". I ignore him. Then towards the end I get kicked out because I am still watching my cutscenes. I am a paying customer and I will not be forced to skip my paying content period.
    conditions.
    You got kicked because you went off on someone like you did in your OP, DEMANDING everyone play YOUR WAY. You are a freaking pugilist. You think your newbie DPS would have been missed? Nope, just like my newbie DRG dps wasn't missed. The difference is I don't treat other players like their experience is less valuable than mine in group content, and I didn't make a spectacle of myself that 7 other people would NOTICE that I am not participating.

    *shrugs maybe you were completely innocent and these were just meanies that singled you out. I wasn't there, but given your attitude in the OP and subsequent posts, I find it extremely hard to believe that you kept your head down and tried to blend into the background. You made a stink about it, and were rewarded with a boot. Congratulations.
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  4. #94
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    Erudain's Avatar
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    Eldarion Telcontar
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    As we say all the time.....doing CM or Prae for Myth is not fast....even if you're tired of Brayflox....AK, WP, Hala, Pharos, are all faster than the story roulette.

    But on the other side, if I do CM or Prae and there's new people...yes it's your right to watch the CS and I cannot force you to skip them....but it's also my right to move on with the dungeon and you cannot force me to wait for you, if I have a tank I will go on.
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  5. #95
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    Gardthorne's Avatar
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    Vanas Genei
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    Excalibur
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Authority View Post
    When you let fate decide your type of group you either accept the randomization or you don't. In random groups you can get good players, bad players, impolite and impatient players. You get all walks of life because that is randomization; everything is a chance. If you want to do something such as a speed run or whatever run you feel like it like EXP run(s) then obviously make your own group with your own conditions.
    Take your own advice and make a party-finder group. If you are expecting 7 strangers to carry you AND wait for you while you waste their time you're the one being selfish. Vote-kicking someone for watching cutscenes is ridiculous, but you're just as bad if you expect people who want to get through their roulette to wait 10 minutes so you can have an ~immersive experience~. Be happy you can watch all the cutscenes at an inn.
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  6. #96
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    SekiShiki's Avatar
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    Seki Shiki
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    Ragnarok
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Authority View Post
    So what is the solution? Simple
    do not watch those cutscenes, stop watching them. Time is money, we can't lose time waiting for people watching cutscenes.
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  7. #97
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    Alphras's Avatar
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    Rojer Alphras
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Erudain View Post
    As we say all the time.....doing CM or Prae for Myth is not fast....even if you're tired of Brayflox....AK, WP, Hala, Pharos, are all faster than the story roulette.

    But on the other side, if I do CM or Prae and there's new people...yes it's your right to watch the CS and I cannot force you to skip them....but it's also my right to move on with the dungeon and you cannot force me to wait for you, if I have a tank I will go on.
    This.

    And this is the only kind of compromise that will be accepted by the majority of the community.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 06-20-2014 at 01:37 AM.

  8. #98
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    KerenRhys's Avatar
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    Kaeren Rhys
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    All se needs to do is disable Cs on he ms roulette if a first timer is in it. It makes it fair. Wanna speed Run? Too bad, pf it. Also, because it'll make a lot of people want to quit the map on entrance, if anyone quits, 1 hour lock out and take away their bonus.

    It's harsh. But I hate ashole that force new players to skip. My first time in praet I ran as Dps and got left out of the first fight for watching cs. Said f that changed to healer and made them wait. Because I lucked out and Bob me and the other healer were first time.
    Sure, do that. Nobody will run these dungeons anymore, and first timers will have 10+ hours to wait like they had with Cape Westwind before it was added to roulette too...
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  9. #99
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    Elim's Avatar
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    ...Am I the only person in the world who got a FC group together for my first run through of CM and Prae? I didn't complain about the amount of time it took to get my FC group together either.

    If there had been a PF tool back then you bet your booty that I would have tried it as well for my first run through of some things.

    I don't understand the mentality of some people. They wont use PF because it takes too long to get a group, so they use DF and get mad at the people who make the que quick for them. :S
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  10. #100
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    Kerberon's Avatar
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    Lughna Ravensworn
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 40
    Did CM for the first time last night. I skipped all the cutscenes with no one having to ask me. There were a ton, they were 10 mins in total (I watched later at the inn and timed), and if I hadn't done that I 100% would have deserved a kick. 1 person does not outweigh 7 people.
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