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    IzumiRaito's Avatar
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    Raito Izumi
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    This wouldnt be a problem if every single ban was publicly announced. If there were information like "Player XXX YYY was punished with 1 month ban for forcing players to skip cutscenes" publicly avaible, every first timer harrasment in DF would IMMEDIATELY stop. I remember OGame doing it correctly.
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    Elway Dinivayne
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    If you wanna drag ass and watch the cutscenes, be prepared to miss pretty much every fight. You can't have it both ways. The duty finder isn't about YOU.

    Sounds like you deserved to be kicked if you "ignored" them as you yourself admit when asked to skip cutscenes. I suspect a simple reply stating that you wanted to watch them and to go ahead without you would have been plenty to keep you from being kicked. But that's not what you wanted. You expected the entire party to cater to your specific wants in the DUTY FINDER.

    I wouldn't have voted to kick you, I would have initiated the vote...
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    Deathgod Hayabusa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elway358 View Post
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    This is story where story is told once. This is not a repeatable quest or a side-quest or a secondary quest or a mini-game. You choose to enter that content which you know it is a story and for some people including me will want to watch it and experienced it like we are supposed to. You are forcing us, the new comers to skip the content we are meant to experience. You make the choice entering a story-mode environment so you are being not only selfish-about-it by stating "dragging your ass" but want to impose your-doing-of-things on the story mode. You don't see me imposing my rules on other people's modes.

    Primary objective which is to finish the story is primary. Secondary objective which is to acquire some loot (which I don't know what is all about) is secondary. You make that choice to enter that specific environment to accomplish those specific goals. No one is forcing you to do that or telling you that it is the only way to gear up in this game. You make the choice to re-clear something that is a story mode.

    So much self-entitlement on the core design which I am playing it as is intended as the game intended it to be which is part of the main story with scenes.
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    Elway Dinivayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Authority View Post
    This is story where story is told once. This is not a repeatable quest or a side-quest or a secondary quest or a mini-game. You make the choice entering a story-mode environment so you are being not only selfish-about-it by stating "dragging your ass" but want to impose your-doing-of-things on the story mode. You don't see me imposing my rules on other people's modes.


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    Actually IT IS repeatable as many times as you like and what you were trying to do was exactly IMPOSE YOUR RULES ONTO OTHER PEOPLES PLAY MODES. You plainly state you want people to have to wait for battle until you finish your movie.

    Hypocrit much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elway358 View Post
    Actually IT IS repeatable as many times as you like and what you were trying to do was exactly IMPOSE YOUR RULES ONTO OTHER PEOPLES PLAY MODES. You plainly state you want people to have to wait for battle until you finish your movie.

    Hypocrit much?
    Does the story tell you to repeat it yes or no?

    No it does not. So it is neither repeatable nor required by the main story.
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    Mcshiggs's Avatar
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    Vizzer Mcshiggs
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Authority View Post
    Does the story tell you to repeat it yes or no?

    No it does not. So it is neither repeatable nor required by the main story.
    It is not required, but I don't think you quite grasp the definition of repeatable, because the story dungeons are both able to be repeated.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    Story dungeons are just that - to see the story. If you can't accept this, you should be speed running brayflox instead.
    I honestly don't understand why people farm story dungeons...you can get more and faster from Brayflox/Crystal tower.
    Most don't farm the story dungeons, they run them once a day for their roulette, it's an easy 100 mythology.
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    Elway Dinivayne
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    All I can tell ya bottom line is make your own party. Reason people don't wanna do that is they have a very long wait to fill with 7 other people who wish to sit there and let you watch your movies.

    So as the alternative, they jump into a duty finder and try to do it there and QQ when people don't cater to them. My opinion, if cutscenes are important enough to you that you can justify holding up other people for nearly an extra hour, then keep your ass in party finder for that hour and inconvenience yourself as you wait for that hour for like-minded people to join you.

    Duty finder is nowhere close to made to order, its take what you get or gtfo...
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    Brick Top'
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by Elway358 View Post
    All I can tell ya bottom line is make your own party. Reason people don't wanna do that is they have a very long wait to fill with 7 other people who wish to sit there and let you watch your movies.

    So as the alternative, they jump into a duty finder and try to do it there and QQ when people don't cater to them. My opinion, if cutscenes are important enough to you that you can justify holding up other people for nearly an extra hour, then keep your ass in party finder for that hour and inconvenience yourself as you wait for that hour for like-minded people to join you.

    Duty finder is nowhere close to made to order, its take what you get or gtfo...
    no YOU need to make your own party if you are doing speed runs. That is your problem, not someone who has never run the dungeon before. gtfo
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    Rojer Alphras
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Authority View Post
    This is story where story is told once. This is not a repeatable quest or a side-quest or a secondary quest or a mini-game. You choose to enter that content which you know it is a story and for some people including me will want to watch it and experienced it like we are supposed to. You are forcing us, the new comers to skip the content we are meant to experience. You make the choice entering a story-mode environment so you are being not only selfish-about-it by stating "dragging your ass" but want to impose your-doing-of-things on the story mode. You don't see me imposing my rules on other people's modes.

    Primary objective which is to finish the story is primary. Secondary objective which is to acquire some loot (which I don't know what is all about) is secondary. You make that choice to enter that specific environment to accomplish those specific goals. No one is forcing you to do that or telling you that it is the only way to gear up in this game. You make the choice to re-clear something that is a story mode.

    So much self-entitlement on the core design which I am playing it as is intended as the game intended it to be which is part of the main story with scenes.
    No. That is your primary reason for being in there. The reason for the other 7 people is the duty roulette. If that wouldn't be the case you wouldn't get into the dungeon in the first place (or at least wait multiple hours).

    The only real solution would be to make them one player instances.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 06-20-2014 at 12:23 AM.

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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphras View Post
    No. That is your primary reason for being in there. The reason for the other 7 people is the duty roulette. If that wouldn't be the case you wouldn't get into the dungeon in the first place (or at least wait multiple hours).

    The only real solution would be to make them one player instances.
    Or make the CS unskipable if someone in he party is a first-timer and increase the roulette reward as a compensation for the unskipable CS
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