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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    But you cant prove it(unless the person actually says that hes using a parser). So reporting that someone will be futile.
    Look at it this way, if I have a reasonable cause to think that my neighbor is running an illegal coke (drug) factory in his basement, I am duty bound to tell the Police whether I am 100% certain that he is doing so or not. It is the Police Department's job to have it's investigator's determine if their is enough probable cause to arrest that individual.

    Same rules apply when reporting someone for suspected breach of the Terms of Use. So long as you have reason to suspect that there has been a breach of the Terms of Use, then you should report that person. Hence I would report someone who tells me I am doing under a specified number of DPS on the grounds of suspecting them of using a Parser. Do I have proof? No. Do I have sufficient evidence to report them? Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    Look at it this way, if I have a reasonable cause to think that my neighbor is running an illegal coke (drug) factory in his basement, I am duty bound to tell the Police whether I am 100% certain that he is doing so or not. It is the Police Department's job to have it's investigator's determine if their is enough probable cause to arrest that individual.
    But unlike said Police Department SE cannot prove that you are using it(unlike say Blizzard with their Warden). I mean its commendable that you will report it but nothing will come of it even if that person was using a parser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    But unlike said Police Department SE cannot prove that you are using it(unlike say Blizzard with their Warden). I mean its commendable that you will report it but nothing will come of it even if that person was using a parser.
    Eh, that isn't quite true. While they can't look at your Computer and see if you have the Parser Program installed on it. What they can however do is pull up the complete history of your characters chat logs. With that wealth of information, they can look at the history of what you have said in game, and determine if you have made enough references to people doing a specified amount of DPS to warrant a closure of your account.

    Yes, Square-Enix does store this game's chat logs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    With that wealth of information, they can look at the history of what you have said in game, and determine if you have made enough references to people doing a specified amount of DPS to warrant a closure of your account.
    How much is enough? What if i just start saying random numbers in parties claiming its their dps, will i get banned for that? As far as i remember only the use of third-party software is prohibited(which they, again, cannot detect), not telling people what their dps is. I guess that can somehow be considered as harassment but what if im just stating the number, with no emotional undertone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    Look at it this way, if I have a reasonable cause to think that my neighbor is running an illegal coke (drug) factory in his basement, I am duty bound to tell the Police whether I am 100% certain that he is doing so or not. It is the Police Department's job to have it's investigator's determine if their is enough probable cause to arrest that individual.

    Same rules apply when reporting someone for suspected breach of the Terms of Use. So long as you have reason to suspect that there has been a breach of the Terms of Use, then you should report that person. Hence I would report someone who tells me I am doing under a specified number of DPS on the grounds of suspecting them of using a Parser. Do I have proof? No. Do I have sufficient evidence to report them? Yes.
    I'd hate to be your neighbor
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