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    Moqi's Avatar
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    Goji Degotye
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    Twintania
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    Botanist Lv 81
    If someone says "X you suck" I vote kick for harrassment as soon as I can, doesn't matter the class or to whom it was directed. Telling anyone they suck is not fine lol.
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    Yari Lanza
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    You know, it is entirely possible to determine relative dps values without using any 3rd party program. You do it by looking at the enmity tables. Needless to say, this involves a lot more work and manual calculation than using a parser. Giving an example using this non-parser method to calculate DPS:

    Turn 2 ADS

    Take a screenshot while targetting ADS when it dies/ x minutes into the fight. Open any image software (even Microsoft paint is enough for this exercise) and calculate pixels of enmity each DPS has. If BRD has made 11 pixels and MNK has made 18 pixels; you can in the end make the statement, the bard is doing 60% of the monk's DPS.

    Turn 5 conflagration

    Take a screenshot of the conflagration as it dies/ going to explode. Just look at the bars, don't bother calculating, the DPS with near empty enmity bar is at fault (assuming is not in conflagration).

    Limitations/ Hassles:
    Can't compare DPS to tanks or healers
    Need to know enmity modifying skills has been used or not, by reading logs or monitoring teammates in fight or asking (and trusting).
    Can't tell if accuracy is the issue or not, unless you read logs.
    Can't tell if literally everyone sucks (since you're only getting relative DPS values), but the fight progression should have you thinking about this.
    Need to use assumptions (need to take SMN's enmity * 1.5 as others can't see pet's enmity)
    People died, but you probably have already figured out who's at fault

    Yes, I have been doing this in-game. MT is always 27 pixels on my screenshots (yours may be differ using a different screenshot setting). In my opinion, this is already enough to determine if people are pulling his/ her weight. I don't actually care so much about 300 vs 325 dps in a fight, what I do care is 150 vs 300 dps. The latter will be obvious just by looking at enmity.
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    Last edited by Poringing; 06-19-2014 at 06:52 PM.

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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    [QUOTE=Poringing;2200951
    Turn 2 ADS

    Take a screenshot while targetting ADS when it dies/ x minutes into the fight. Open any image software (even Microsoft paint is enough for this exercise) and calculate pixels of enmity each DPS has. If BRD has made 11 pixels and MNK has made 18 pixels; you can in the end make the statement, the bard is doing 60% of the monk's DPS.
    [/QUOTE]

    Wrong.

    BRDs have access to quelling strikes. Look it up what it does and why it would prove that totally wrong on so many levels to be laughable,
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    Kletian Drowa
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Wrong.

    BRDs have access to quelling strikes. Look it up what it does and why it would prove that totally wrong on so many levels to be laughable,
    How does 20% less enmity for a couple seconds of every few minutes going to make a huge difference over a 4 minute fight. If your Bards and BLM used it, then give them a bonus pixel or two on the threat meter.
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