I just wanted to point out a double standard...

[Cessna]

I'll also add that the dreadnaughts in turn 8 have a enrage as well. Flamethrower deals 11kish damage which is pretty much a oneshot in addition to all the damage getting thrown around from the dread.

Turn 6 in addition has bee's must kill them or bee will enrage and kill players one by one until it dies. 3rd phase has the slug/slime mechanic thats a dps check, basically you need to either Destroy raffleshia before 10 stacks of acid ooze builds up or do super slug and kill it before it aoes the entire party for 30k damage and then kill raffleshia before 10 stacks build up.

Turn 9 also has another dps check the ghosts, need to kill em before players gerot twist debuff reach a certain stack or they will die since they can't cure themselves of the status without running into the lights that are droped by the ghost.

[Warlyx]

lots of partys disbanded because dps are unable to kill DPS checks (the wall in Amdapor was an example, the nails on ifrit , the gaol on titan , plumes on garuda...and bubbles on levi , every other boss has dps checks Coil 1-9 is full of dps checks)

tanks and healers are more noticiable , if a tanks lose agro ...or tanks dies because healer wasnt healing....u see it....

DPS u can see that the boss is dying slow , but u cant see if its dps 1 or dp2 fault other than watching how they play .

[Gilraen]

I guess it's just me but when I'm healing I'm not really paying attention to your damage output. I'm more paying attention to your HP bar cause, you know, that's the thing I actually deal with. That and your debuffs. Everything else is on you and so long as you aren't just sitting there doing your best Manderville then I'm peachy. Seriously, I'm a healer when I'm healing, not your coach or your sempai.

[Wobi]

I think most of the pro-Parser people are greatly overestimating the maturity and level headedness of the player base at large. Sure you can have data, but if you don't know how to read it or take into account situations that occurred during the fight that may have cause one player to drop off or one to show a higher % of the DPS then you might as well have nothing at all.

If you've ever worked in retail or even some office environments they are always running reports, reports you WILL be judged by. Many of you may have encountered a know-nothing supervisor who read said report and determined you were lacking without doing any research into why your numbers may have been lower in that particular instance/day perhaps due to an unscheduled meeting or a system issue. Possibly due to an irate customer issue that took up a significant chunk of time.

The real issue isn't whether or not we should have this data available, but if the player base should be trusted to review and ascertain the performance of other players and will they used that information correctly and responsibly.

[Goodberry]

If the combined DPS output of me and the ranged guy is low, it's always PAINFULLY obvious... no need of parsers.

[Dwill]

If the combined DPS output of me and the ranged guy is low, it's always PAINFULLY obvious... no need of parsers.

Where's the argument in there ?

So, my personal opinion on the matter of harassment stemming from parsers is this: The people who would harass based on a parse are the people we don't need in the community anyway, and I have no qualms seeing them get banned. If that means a period of high-volume reporting to clean up the community as a whole, I'm all for it.

People are blowing the "people will be harassed" things way out of proportion.

[Ikeda]

Oh look it's this thread again. Is the horse not pounded into soup yet?

[Silvanoshi]

I think adding bonus tomes, exp, and gil for speed completions would solve a large portion of this. That would be incentive for players to perform better.

[SarcasmMisser]

If I saw a monk constantly changing fists and letting GL drop I could tell right there he is doing bad damage, and if I was the healer id tell him straight up to knock that off he doesn't need to cripple his dps to save me healing 10%, especially when it's raid wide damage that is getting aoe healed anyway. If they want to help use a mantra.

[givemeraptors]

If I saw a monk constantly changing fists and letting GL drop I could tell right there he is doing bad damage, and if I was the healer id tell him straight up to knock that off he doesn't need to cripple his dps to save me healing 10%, especially when it's raid wide damage that is getting aoe healed anyway. If they want to help use a mantra.

I play a healer too and I prefer seeing it. So...I don't get your point. Also "cripple" is overreacting. The DPS loss is utterly negligible and there's no reason to lose GL3 when doing it either. It's not required to drop GL3 to perform the switch.