DPS meters and why they're necessary

[ParadiseCircus]

It's kind of hilarious that you'd label me an elitist due to sheer ignorance on your part

Oh RLY??

Because you don't like this being an elitist viewpoint doesn't make it any less true.

Better watch what you say, you said it yourself... if you're supporting an idea you accept its elitist it makes you aware of your position... you don't have to be a hardcore gamer to be an elitist, don't use that excuse please... but I mean it's okay keep calling me ignorant as much as u want although it really seems to be you're only projecting your own insecurities lol

[Dwill]

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Accepting one elitist viewpoint doesn't make me an elitist just the same that a democrat agreeing with one viewpoint of a republican doesn't make him a republican.

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The ability for SE to develop something for the PS4 is there, whether it takes more effort than the PC or not. You can't dismiss it due to the fact of being complicated according to your opinion. And after reading your links, it doesn't even seen that much for a company has big as SE.

It seems clear to me you're incapable of making an argument that's not a logical fallacy, arguing with you is becoming a waste of time. After all, they do say ignorance is bliss so keep having fun in your ignorance.

[ParadiseCircus]

And after reading your links, it doesn't even seen that much for a company has big as SE.

Oh god please.... I'm a developer you have like 0 idea of what kind of trouble this kind of stuff involves, so I'm not even gonna discuss with someone who has 0 idea about it.

It seems clear to me you're incapable of making an argument that's not a logical fallacy, arguing with you is becoming a waste of time. After all, they do say ignorance is bliss so keep having fun in your ignorance.

Keep leaving in that small bubble of yours, you wanted real arguments? A few been said already but you keep rolling your eyes and calling it an ignorant fallacy!!!! which sadly is just denial, reason why you're are sitting only playing a video game & not developing or managing it.

Come back with your whim after you have real prove of why this actually needed, for now have fun not getting banned .

[scarebearz]

Oh god please.... I'm a developer you have like 0 idea of what kind of trouble this kind of stuff involves, so I'm not even gonna discuss with someone who has 0 idea about it.

There is already an enmity meter built in, it would be little trouble for SE to add a damage meter.

Funny how on these types of forums everyone claims to be a developer/games designer etc etc etc, depending on the current argument. lol

[ParadiseCircus]

There is already an enmity meter built in, it would be little trouble for SE to add a damage meter.

Funny how on these types of forums everyone claims to be a developer/games designer etc etc etc, depending on the current argument. lol

Funny how people comment when they don't even read, how many times do I have to say it?... every game has a parser it's necessary for development, it doesn't mean they have to give one to the game user.... so that kind of argument is merely stupid.

I'm not even against parsing but right now it won't be a smart move by SE to implement a parser as current ones, thats what I've been trying to say since my 1st post, if you guys can't understand that, well nothing I can do, but if I'm sure about something is that you're never gonna see a parser like the one you are demanding for.

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PvE & PvP are two completely different topics so let's not go there because that is just pointless.

[Viridiana]

PvE & PvP are two completely different topics so let's not go there because that is just pointless.

But parsing is parsing, whether it's done in PVP or PVE. That SE has already implemented it it PVP means they can release it in PVE.

[Kaisha]

Oh god please.... I'm a developer you have like 0 idea of what kind of trouble this kind of stuff involves, so I'm not even gonna discuss with someone who has 0 idea about it.

The devs have already stated long ago that when the add-on package for PC comes out, they'll take the popular picks and integrate an official solution eventually for the PS4 playerbase.

PVP scoreboard already shows the server has some semblance of parsing built-in, so I'm not surprised if they eventually add an official solution in some 'friendly' manner.

[Dwill]

The devs have already stated long ago that when the add-on package for PC comes out, they'll take the popular picks and integrate an official solution eventually for the PS4 playerbase.

He just doesn't get it. He thinks PS4 players are gonna be at such a huge disadvantage since they won't have access to a parser. The thing is that is that it doesn't put PS4 players at a disadvantage at all. This person explains it pretty damn well:

Nope.

Last I checked, parsers do not directly increase DPS. They simply increase the feedback you get from the game, and accelerate the learning process for the entire community.

All that testing people do to figure out which stats you should pick for your jobs. All those BiS setups. All those effective rotations that a majority of the community reads up on and, if they care enough to not be dead-weight in party content, incorporate into their playstyle. They are results of people testing the mechanics thoroughly with the use of - you guessed it - parsers.

You can say parsers are giving the player using them an advantage all you like, doesn't make it true. A person using a parser in a party is giving the entire party an advantage, potentially, simply if it leads to finding the source of the wipes faster. People using parsers to test game stats/strats/rotations/builds are giving the whole community a boost in developing the metagame. A person using a parser, however, does not have a direct advantage over a person who doesn't.

They do nothing but help the community. People always like to talk about players that will use this info to harass others as an excuse. That implies that a player willing to harass another in game wouldn't already be inclined to do so without a parser, which is quite silly in my opinion.

This just in: Reading the tool tips for your spells can give you an advantage over other players, so SE is planning to remove the information given in the tool tips in order to level the playing field in the game.

Funny you bring this up, because with some of the things I've seen in CT or Hard Mode dungeon runs blatantly suggest to me that there are, in fact, quite a number of players who don't even bother to read the tool-tips of their skills.

I've legitimately seen DRGs spam Full Thrust, and only Full Thrust as well as some who never use Heavy Thrust. Ever. I've seen MNKs alternate their combos, but stay on the rear of bosses full time. I've seen BLMs who use nothing but Blizzard spells. BRDs who never use their DoTs. My favorite tends to be when a BRD tells you they aren't singing Foe's Requiem because they don't want the % cut to their DPS, cuz it implies they read the tooltips, but also that they didn't.

So, yeah. Apparently people who read and understand the tooltips have a clear advantage over those who don't. By reading the tooltips and pointing out to the player's in my party who I see messing up that they're doing something wrong (Heavy Thrust is good, stop spamming Full Thrust, Foe's does not cut your DPS, etc) I am using the advantage I have by reading the tooltips to give them constructive criticism. That needs to end. Clear the tooltips!

[Sen_Terrechant]

Oh god please.... I'm a developer you have like 0 idea of what kind of trouble this kind of stuff involves, so I'm not even gonna discuss with someone who has 0 idea about it.

Oh god, oh god. The whole "Im a Dev"

I doubt it. I really really really do.

What games are you working on? Is it some cellphone game third party BS that just blatently copies the source code of another?