DPS meters and why they're necessary

[subteraneanbird]

Yoshida's off the cuff remarks on parsers amount to "Use them, but don't be a dick to others about it". The whole "saying parser gets u banned!!!!" scare was always vastly exaggerated. The person in question was punished not for parsing, but for 1) harassing someone with parser data 2) lying to a GM about it. And they weren't even banned. It was a suspension that got downgraded to a warning. As long as the people you parse with regularly are friends (a static, an FC) and you don't mention it to other people and/or harass people over it, you're entirely fine.

[ClaireAbigail]

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Then you'll have people saying "post screenies of your dps then you can join" it's very improbable but not impossible.

If they don't give it to the entire community people will start whining saying they only cater to "some" people(imagine that whole same sex marriage thing) even if they aren't.

And I'm willing to bet my animus bow and my miqote's first time that a lot of the scob static have someone with a parser already but ofc they have to be sneaky about it since the whole parser deal right now is at "ask no questions,tell no lies"(if you have it keep it to yourself and trusted friends)

Look, I agree with you. I wish they have a legitimate dps meter. Heck idc if people even check my dps with that dps meter. I'm just explaining a possibility why they don't want to implement one.

[Grembo]

Then you'll have people saying "post screenies of your dps then you can join" it's very improbable but not impossible.

Then crack down on troublesome/volatile players harder?

If they don't give it to the entire community people will start whining saying they only cater to "some" people(imagine that whole same sex marriage thing) even if they aren't.

They could make it opt in/opt out on the users end, make the tools available to everyone but the user can keep their results private if they wish? Like I said earlier, there's PLENTY of ways they could do this.

I sincerely doubt SE are unwilling to add features to the game because the community is bad. It's a subscription based MMO, SE can choose to treat harassment with more severe repercussions if they believe it's affecting what they can and can't add to the game

[Illrayth]

Considering there is an iLvl requirement to join end game battles, unless the DPS has awesome armor and accessories, but has a lv 30 weapon, then DPS is not the excuse. SE has ensured that if the party has the required iLVl to join the queue, then you CAN win the fight.

Try working with each other, watch one another, give tips, take tips gracefully and win the fight.

[Valmar]

Considering there is an iLvl requirement to join end game battles, unless the DPS has awesome armor and accessories, but has a lv 30 weapon, then DPS is not the excuse. SE has ensured that if the party has the required iLVl to join the queue, then you CAN win the fight.

Try working with each other, watch one another, give tips, take tips gracefully and win the fight.

Crystal Tower is ilvl55.

Show me a group in full ilvl55 of avarage skill level players than can clear it in the time limit. Call me Sally and Mark me Impressed.

[Kurand0]

"Oh, Player X is not doing enough damage. We should find out if their rotation is bad, try to help them

That would literally almost never happen and you know it. Once the culprit had been identified he or she would be kicked without a second thought.

[Daweism]

Let the DPS meter be built into the game, so the bads can see for themselves how bad they are and nothing need be said, just like the threat meter is built into the game, so should the dps meter.

Let them be kicked so they may return a better player after re-thinking their dps.

[Butcherboy]

Pretty much Saud above. This game has good and bad players also elitist vs nice players. If SE applies something like in DCUO where every run tells ur number, we will see both side,,,,,," hey what's wrong ur a fire class how come ur not hitting for a 1million dps?". Or like " dude u suck, ur an electric dps, u should hit 1million dps right now, what are u doing?" Or " hey buddy I notice ur hardlight dps is liw, do u need help?"

[Adler]

I better prefer a person that perform awfully but actually try and learn from his/her mistakes in my group rather than dude that stare at dps meter and whine. I have beaten many battles/dungeons with members that started to get better during the fight when they asked questions after wipes or other party members just adapted to less experienced members' play style. Also dps must have a bit of brain to slow down his damage sometimes, to attack the right mob etc - not just smash something as hard as possible.
But every time I hear "dps is too low" I know that 1 dude just killed mood for everybody and "dc" or vote to abandon will follow soon.

P.S.
I often notice that bigger whiners are i90+ geared players that completely suck themselves so they choose another player in group that seemingly has the lowest ilevel and use him/her as scapegoat for inability to clear the raid or dungeon. In lot of these situations scapegoat actually perform much better than the whining weiner.

[Dwill]

P.S.
I often notice that bigger whiners are i90+ geared players that completely suck themselves so they choose another player in group that seemingly has the lowest ilevel and use him/her as scapegoat for inability to clear the raid or dungeon. In lot of these situations scapegoat actually perform much better than the whining weiner.

Conjectures and anecdotal evidences are worthless without something to back them up. The shitty attitude of players concerning DPS comes frm both end of the spectrum here.