Do the developers even care about the market board, and its problems?

**therpgfanatic** · 06-18-2014 01:42 PM

Everyone knows there should be a listing fee for having retainers sell items on the market board. Because there is no listing fee, many people are having bots auto-relist items 1 gil below the lowest price of that item, which is causing it be impossible to make any money off items that bots can easily acquire, such as mob drops or early crystal items. It's just rows and rows of 1 gil loot until you get into the lv 40s items. You might as well just vendor them all, because although the item might be in high demand for crafters the bots have ruined the prices.

Even with crafted goods, you see this happen where bots will undercut by 1 gil, and just keep relisting the same items, crashing the market value for legit players through constant undercutting. In many cases the bots eventually sell the items for less than you can sell them to an NPC vendor.

I've actually spent time buying up all the 1 gil loot and relisting them at 40 gil. Within an hour the bots begin their undercutting campaigns, and the price eventually returns to 1 gil.

So there is that very obvious flaw. But here's another: the "Free search" feature only does exact name searches. If I search "mythril" it will only show items that begin with the word "mythril". It will not show any items that, for example, might be "reinforced mythril elmo" because the item name starts with the word "reinforced".

To me this shows how little attention the developers are paying to the market board, which is unfortunate since the market board is highly used by the playerbase and is the primary method of acquiring gil or items from other players. Near as I can tell nobody is doing personal transactions using the trade windows; it's all market board based.

The developers should give more attention to improving the market board. There should be a list fee for items so undercutting no longer is exploited by botters to crash the game economy, and they need to improve "Free search" to be more user friendly.

**Chiramu** · 06-18-2014 02:03 PM

Undercutting is a problem?

OP, you need to play more games. The famous MMORPG, (running for what 8 years now?), WoW, had this all the time.

So you don't want new content OP? You just want SE to think of a way to stop people from selling their goods at the price that they want to sell things at?

**Laraul** · 06-18-2014 02:05 PM

The search issue is an legitimate issue.

Blaming your woes with the free-market on "bots" is not.

**Kaze3434** · 06-18-2014 02:28 PM

just an fyi, not everyone listing for one less gil is a bot. selling for less than what you get from vendoring is also not only bots. bots crashing the market isnt really happening. stupid people who undercut by more than 50% crash the market. everyone should know, you cant fix stupid.

**Dano** · 06-18-2014 02:30 PM

i undercut all the time, im not a bot. If you wanna make money try selling Primal EX runs

**AiChyan** · 06-18-2014 02:38 PM

You can fix the MB functionality, but you can't fix humans.

The state of the market board gets depressing but there isn't really much to do about that. I've seen items get from 50k to freaking 200 gil in 24 hours, and pretty sure no bots were doing that. SE can't do anything about that.

I now buy the stuff which sells for less than NPC price and sell them to NPC :/ might as well profit out of those 1 gil items sigh..

Edit: I kind of stopped crafting because of this too. It just seems like a waste of time and money now.

**Nicobo** · 06-18-2014 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

Everyone knows there should be a listing fee for having retainers sell items on the market board. ....

Would you share your idea how to implement listing fee?
For example, 5%? so listing a 40G item cost 2G?
40K item will be 2K, for a 400K item ONLY cost 20K.
I think ppl will undercut >5% for sure. ^^; only ppl not adjust the price would be suffered.

**Ikeda** · 06-18-2014 04:20 PM

They could always just change the market board to the way FFXI's auction house was. You could only see the last price someone paid for the item rather than what people are actually selling it for. Never really saw undercutting in it or at least the undercutting wasn't nearly as aggressive as it is in this.

**Ruenis** · 06-18-2014 07:04 PM

I love to undercut and crush people's hope when I have the time to log in every 2 hour or so.

**AiChyan** · 06-18-2014 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ruenis

I love to undercut and crush people's hope when I have the time to log in every 2 hour or so.

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