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    Player
    Kiroh's Avatar
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    Soube Miseux
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Adler View Post
    I always get supposedly rare drops from fights when I feel I truly performed better than others and if I see astonishing player in group that excel at what he does during the battle I know that 99% good drop will fall for him/his class. Same goes for Atma - if you don't just act like a bot in fate then you can get all your atma within a week by doing fates half an hour every day.
    For the last time, as explained by Yoshida, Atma drops are

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    Miltani's Avatar
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    Thalakos Dauthi
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Guess you were never on the waiting end of getting a Ridill before then
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Leviathan
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    I don't really see a problem with mirrors and pony drop rates. It took me several hundred ex primal kills to get a nightmare mount. I had lost the roll on mounts around 6-8 times before I got one. I wasn't even farming it either. Sure I wanted one. I could have easily never gotten one. The fact it was so rare made it a nice surprise (as I wouldn't have ever in my right mind expected to have gotten one that day).

    Perhaps, now that novus weapons are available and gerolt weapons are easier to get (more geared people around to run with and do turn 7) they might want to up the mirror drop rate. The only reason I say that is because, it's less desirable to get a mirror now. If it had a higher drop rate, people might actually try to farm it. At 1% or some such drop rate, it isn't logical to ever farm it unless you run with 7 other people that will let you have it if it ever drops. It would be a exercise in frustration merely because of the math involved (1 in 800?). If you happen luckily to win a drop of one, odds are you probably don't even "need" it and maybe it would just be a placeholder until you get a better weapon. So therefore, I think it should be a bit less rare (5%? so 1 in 160?). Sure some people might "need" it and not feel like farming a novus or something... But, with the drop rate being what it is, if you "need" it, it's almost a shorter grind to actually do the novus quest instead of trying to win the mirror lottery. And if you do happen it win it, you certainly aren't going to ever want to change it out for something else for a while. Where as if you got a animus/weathered gerolt(both i100 like mirror) you could upgrade it.

    So yea, while I don't think it's a "must" by any means, having more mirrors out there might make people do more leviathan ex. And, that would mean most stuff to do for the rest of us.
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    Last edited by Cherie; 06-19-2014 at 04:48 PM.

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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Wrong link**
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    Last edited by Mature; 06-19-2014 at 05:05 PM.

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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    As we have a moogle hat to increase exp by 10% up to lvl10 it would be ideal to get an item or a piece of gear that every time u wear it will increase the drop rate for Fates (atmas/alexandrites/future drops) or even for Dungeons.

    Having this it will at least motivate people into doing more fates as the chances of a drop are higher.

    for those who played FFXIII know what a nightmare it was to get Trapezohedron of the Adamantoise with a 1% drop rate. For this kind of situations there was an accessory called "connoisseur" it helped to increase the drop rate by 10%.

    Will it be possible to have a think and consider this if the Fate drop rates are not gonna be increased anytime soon?

    I personally would be happy having something like this.

    Room for thoughts
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    Player ShadowHunterrX's Avatar
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    Mivau Lawantal
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Drop rate is fine what it is. Let people finally work for there gear , then leeching and getting cared too some fights. I dont get the cry`s for*atma drops* anyway , as owner of 1 animus and 2 atma`s without days of fate farm. Every day 1 hour and see what will happen.

    If you farm non stop for that 1 thing...... Yea own fault I guess :P.
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    Rose Wild
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 80
    They should let you buy them with Rowena's tokens. Even if it's like 30 for a mount. I hate the idea of stuff that you can't get just because of RNG. Most people give up on them because of the low drop and having to roll vs 7 players....
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    When droprates get too low they have the opposite effect of making people do content less, not more. If getting a Leviathan mirror was a realistic goal I would have done dozens of runs to get one, however I refuse to do hundreds of runs to get one so my kills are probably in the single digits despite beating it for the first time two days after the patch.
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    therpgfanatic's Avatar
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    Charlemagne Martell
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    Malboro
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    The problem isn't the grind, but the heavy reliance of RNG for some of the end-game stuff.

    You have to grind for tomes to buy gear. That's a good type of grind; you know if you beat a boss or do a daily, you will get a fixed reward. Sure, I have to do like 100 DF runs to get fully equipped but at least I can grind in confidence that my efforts will be rewarded.

    RNG grind is different. You could get the item on the 1st kill. You could get it on the 100th, or the millionth. The billionth. You have no idea what kill it will be, because the God of RNG is in control of your destiny. And he is a cruel god.
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    IMO 1% on anything is ridiculous. Even 5% may be pushing it. However, as another peroson stated, with CT2 coming up and Ramuh weapons, there will be way less reason to even farm Levi for mirrors. I haven't been farming for mirrors, but the weapons themselves. I just unlocked him about a week or two ago and have about 20 wins and have only received one weapon so far.

    As for Ramuh weapons, I remember it being stated that he will mostly drop accessories, but that the weapons would still drop a fair/moderate amount.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 06-19-2014 at 11:47 PM.

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