Please buff Quelling Strikes

[Warlyx]

the only buff i woul like to see quelling strikes needs a 50% instant agro drop (like DRG jump) as soon as u use it.

the only solution to your problem is giving the fresh tanks more time ....wait for 2-3 overpower / flash before start dpsing , or slow down a bit...at the beginning.

I didnt had any problems as fresh warrior/paladin , OP and flash spam was enough to keep up. For bosses FoF/ berserk at the start and u are golden.

[Shiki_Lockhart]

Be glad you even have access to Quelling Strikes. The only way a MNK can drop enmity is to die. There's no way for undergeared tanks to keep aggro over me ;_;

There is just kill the mob before it kill you and problem solved. If it is the boss then tank it with fists of earth or keep fire and ask healer to heal you instead the gimp tank lol.

[Kimikryo]

Quelling strikes itself needs no "buff" like increased duration. Its recast needs to be shortened.

Oh and dear fellow Bards: If you see a tank struggles with keeping hate, when you give each mob you see enemas of wood and iron, how about you tick down a notch? No you wont slow down the run, a tank losing hate to an over motivated bard means more MP strain on the healers, this leads to wipes and slowdowns in extreme cases.

oh and in low levels, tanking against bards IS hard, you miss a lot of skills. think of the tanks


How to lose hate for DPS:
Slow down your ability rotation for a few seconds.

[Xenor]

Yeah the recast is a problem and it's even moreso with new tanks. New tanks tend to have poor gear so they don't do speed run style pulls, which is understandable. But this means I can't use Quelling on the majority of the pulls and I'm almost certain to pull hate if I don't stop DPSing. SE are talking about buffing BLM so this will get worse. More experienced tanks are more likely to do big pulls where Quelling is available for almost every pull and this makes their job easier.

Quelling itself seems strong enough, the only time I pull hate from a tank with Quelling up is when they aren't AoE tanking well enough when I'm going all out AoE. That's the tank being poor rather than the ability being weak. Or maybe they are tanking it right and I'm just not noticing they lost hate due to too much DPS. When I have Quelling up I'll be pairing it with RS and a double flare because if I don't then using RS or Convert any other time will end up with me tanking. Actually pulled Ifrit off a tank the other day because I didn't notice my Quelling didn't go off lol.

[Gilraen]

Honestly, this sounds like a DD that can't manage their enmity worth a damn. I mean, really, it's not that hard to do. If it looks like you're about to draw aggro either switch targets or slow using abilities till the tank can reassert themself in the enmity hierarchy. If you can't shake enmity with Quelling as it is now then you clearly never learned proper enmity management and should endeavor to learn.

[ruskie]

Well I did manage to pull hate off of tanks even with quelling up... But that's generally rare. From leveling up from the start I learned to hold my DPS slower unless I was sure about the tank. At high level I often see myself on the red blinking triangle especiallf if the ilvl diversity is to great. I will often stop DSPing and turn around to avoid auto attacking as well until I see my enmnity drop. The problem I've seen is that some tanks don't seem to build up enminty even after that even when I'm not attacking...

What I would like to see is that repelling shot gets an enminty drop 25% potency added to it.

[Kimikryo]

Some Bards also seem to have a tournament with them self running "How fast will I get the hate from the tank" and than proceed to whine about it to the tank.

Us tanks aren't meant for you to go crazy, if provoke x tomahawk x flash x overpower and the enmity combo don't get the mob(s) of you, I let you keep it.

[Viridiana]

Honestly, this sounds like a DD that can't manage their enmity worth a damn. I mean, really, it's not that hard to do. If it looks like you're about to draw aggro either switch targets or slow using abilities till the tank can reassert themself in the enmity hierarchy. If you can't shake enmity with Quelling as it is now then you clearly never learned proper enmity management and should endeavor to learn.

It's not hard, no. It is kinda jarring, though. I mean, I have no issues giving an undergeared tank a few attacks of head start, but having to sideline yourself just isn't interesting or engaging. I'll Quelling whenever I can so that I can actually do more, but in most runs it's only up for every other pull, at best. . .

[KahnyaRedx]

I don't think your ilvl is that important to enmity generation that it requires a buff to quelling. If the tank isn't holding hate, they aren't doing it right. As an i95 PLD, I can hold hate against a BRD and BLM i100+ with Sword Oath on...

My suggestion...watch what the tank is actually doing, maybe they are messing up their combo (single target), not properly using flash (large groups), or just being lazy and not performing their combo immediately as it comes off GCD.

[LineageRazor]

Giving the ability a shorter cooldown sounds appropriate. Quelling Strikes is typically only useful at one time: the very start of a fight. Tank enmity generation in this game is frankly ridiculous; a couple of enmity rotations and the mob is your friend for life, no matter what the DDs do to it. If a BRD or BLM is going to pull hate it will pretty much always be at the start of the fight while the tank is still gathering a group of mobs together and hasn't had a chance to establish firm enmity on all of them. Giving Quelling Strikes a cooldown that allows them to use it once per battle is appropriate.

In the case of bosses, Quelling Strikes is pretty much pointless after the first minute so it's not as though letting them have Quelling Strikes again will make a lick of difference. Again, no opportunity for abuse.