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    Player
    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Merryl View Post
    did you even read it? I said that people don't have to be geared in their relevant classes to obtain gear. In other words someone who's never tanked in dungeon can use another class to get dungeon drops or allagan tomes. Buy all i90 and still never set foot inside a dungeon with the other class.
    Here's your troll cookie for the attempt to take sentences out of context.
    I did read the whole post, it's just unclear why you said it's irrelevant for those two classes. One can do that just as well for DPS.
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    Merryl's Avatar
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    Claire Reddfield
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    I did read the whole post, it's just unclear why you said it's irrelevant for those two classes. One can do that just as well for DPS.
    That's true. It works for all of them. I know you just took it personal. The higher level gear is more important for endgame coil and ex primals.
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    Sagittarian's Avatar
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    Nesshin'na Kasai
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I think the point was that high level gear is easier to get with the second and later jobs. So they could have fate ground whm to 50 and then equipped all of their scholar gear leaving them with a high ilvl but no experience.

    And yes, that can apply to any class.
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    Sakuraluna's Avatar
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    Malfoy Fleurentine
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    So sorry you had to experience that.

    It's been my experience in other games as well as xiv that typically the player who feels the need to brag and boast about how great his gear is as soon as the party is formed, will most probably be the player making the worst mistakes. By endgame he should have had not just the gear, but the experience and job-based knowledge necessary to compensate for an undergeared/inexperienced tank as long as the tank is putting effort into tanking properly, which I'm assuming you were doing since you went on to win it with a party of other less experienced players. (Congrats on that, btw~) You did good. Don't let him get you too far down.
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    Clavaat's Avatar
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    Osric Sylador
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    My advice to you, OP, at this point would be to start gathering nice people you find in an LS or FC, or join one that suits that. When it comes to Duty Finder, you never know who or what you're going to get. Some people, unfortunately, have a chip on their shoulder about newer players. By finding people you can actually have fun with and enjoy the game with, you will have a much more pleasant experience, especially once you reach lvl50.

    Use the tools at your disposal; check the Server Forums here, ask around in Party Finer, in shout, anything that will help you find people who either share your exact goal or are willing to help you get there. This will be important when you decide you're ready to take on things like The Binding Coil of Bahamut or other high level dungeons. Also, Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium will be a much more pleasant experience if you don't use Duty Finder at all. It may take longer to find at least 8 people who will join you, but the experience and friendship you gain from it will be invaluable.

    As far as actual dungeons themselves go, there are 2 schools of thought: those that would prefer to go in blind and learn through practice/experience, and those that prefer to look up everything they can about it beforehand. This sparks tons of debates, and in reality both schools have valid points. Think about yourself, and what you like to do, and try to find people who will share that idea. Have a Goal and Vision in mind. Either direction takes practice, there's next to no avoiding that unless you are a prodigy, but how you handle the failures and pick yourself up are what's important. Good luck, and I hope you find what you're looking for.
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    TomTom1968's Avatar
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    Tomba Labomba
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Don't let the experienced and well equipped players ruin your experience. They ALL died to Garuda and Titan when they met them first. They have only forgotten about it. I remember that the music in Titan (Story Mode) stressed me so much because I had to look out for many things for the 1st time that I had to turn it off during the Fight. Sadly Level 50 (with Item Level > 50) players are only using these dungeons to get their tomes for Endgame gear quickly. Patience is not their highest priority. Just learn with your very own speed, grow a thick skin and sourround you with players who are in the same or similiar boat as you are. The Game makes lots of Fun, just forget about the high level pricks you will meet on your way. If a player wants you to teach something, listen and try it out but if he is only bitching without giving advice, move on.
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    Garlyle's Avatar
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    Alvis Yune
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    If a player's going to brag about the iLvl of their gear in a sub 50 dungeon, they are actually an idiot. The item level sync actually pushes their gear down to roughly similar stats to that of a white item one level below the cap - regardless of how good it is. For an example for Garuda, if you had green iLvl 44 gear (from Dzemael) or Aetherial iLvl 45/6 gear, you would likely actually be better geared than someone in i90 gear. The only reason it seems they have an advantage is due to the stat points from levelling not getting synced down, and that they're still decked out in item level appropriate gear in every slot one way or another, whereas someone who's newly levelling is likely carrying a few slots that are a few levels under.

    That aside, if he's running out of MP in Garuda Normal, he's doing something horribly wrong. If you're a decent healer you can even be the one bursting down the feathers with the MP-devouring Holy, and you can still have the MP to heal the battle to completion - I say that from experience.

    You will occasionally run into jerks in this game. Just remember that they are the rarity, not the common. You'll remember them because they stand out, but they only stood out because you had no problem with the other 3 players in all the other content you've done.

    Also, congratulations on clearing Garuda!
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    Last edited by Garlyle; 06-21-2014 at 12:29 AM.

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