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    Bigpurpleharness's Avatar
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    Alaik Ropaire
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    That is actually quite true. We don't have a massive heal like Cure 2 with Divine Seal. Our Physick + Embrace does equal a Cure 2, but sometimes Eos decides to heal somebody else, even if you're manually spamming it on the tank.
    I have never had Eos heal someone other than the person I've targetted, and SCH can bust out WAY higher numbers than a WHM ever could for ST, both over the length of a fight, and in a single GCD. Lustrate/Physick/RousedEmbrace absolutely decimates WHM in ST healing. If you're using more Lustrates than you have aetherflow charges... IDK what to tell you, sounds like the tank isn't doing his job right.

    There is no way for a WHM to compare to a SCH's single target. Period.
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    Last edited by Bigpurpleharness; 06-20-2014 at 11:13 PM.

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    Okashii Kazegane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness View Post
    IDK what to tell you, sounds like the tank isn't doing his job right.
    Or the other healer!! My SCH buddy sometimes swaps over to tank when we try to form a farming party for primals/T5. The number of bad WHM/SCH out there is astounding. Just the other night, I had one scoff at me for my HPS. Nevermind my good heal timing. Nevermind the fact that they almost never used adlo, let the tank die before lustrating at 3 aetherflow stacks, didnt seem to know what a cooldown was... they wanted me to cure3 both stacks during fireballs and conflags because... yeah thats needed at 15% echo buff... And they whined about my HPS like that is an important stat at all (not sure they'd ever beaten T5 actually). And a lot of whm's I see don't pace themselves/use SoS right/wtf is freecure? and so they go oom pretty fast or even pull hate depending. So yeah, anyways, if the sch is out of lustrates, it may be anyone's fault really.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okashii View Post
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    Sorry about your T5 experience. It's ridiculous to expect that the WHM is going to bust out Cure III just for Fireballs. Not only should the SCH have precast Succor in anticipation of the Fireball to take some of the edge off, you have plenty of time to recover from Fireball hits since that's the ONLY damage anyone should be taking in that phase aside from the tank and whoever is slow-roasting inside of a Conflagration. It makes me very nervous when a WHM is visibly running out of mana and Conflags aren't even done yet, and overreacting to the Fireball damage is probably a big reason why that happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Sorry about your T5 experience. It's ridiculous to expect that the WHM is going to bust out Cure III just for Fireballs. Not only should the SCH have precast Succor in anticipation of the Fireball to take some of the edge off, you have plenty of time to recover from Fireball hits since that's the ONLY damage anyone should be taking in that phase aside from the tank and whoever is slow-roasting inside of a Conflagration. It makes me very nervous when a WHM is visibly running out of mana and Conflags aren't even done yet, and overreacting to the Fireball damage is probably a big reason why that happens.
    Yeah, I think healers need to calm down a little bit massive damage is no problem. If no one dies, its really easy to heal up. Also, I think I will use "slow roasting inside of a Conflagration" from now on XD
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    Eden Light
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    As a WHM, I'm a healer that can do some damage.

    As a SCH, I can do alot of stuff, including heal.

    SCH feels more like support to me. It's the lazy mans heal, but you get to do other things. I love them both, but really.....you don't realize how much that little fairy heals for you until you don't have her.

    It's hard to really grasp it until you play them yourself, but they are different enough to warrant two classes.
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    Last edited by EdenLost; 06-23-2014 at 06:04 PM.

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    Noll Aestel
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    SCH has to manage more skills + pet and pet skills. Has tons more options and he's clearly superior in single target healing.

    WHM has less skills to use but he has to manage them well, being more MP limited than the SCH.

    There's no better healer, it depends on your playstyle. Personally I fell great playing sch, and I woulnd't like playing whm the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness View Post
    I have never had Eos heal someone other than the person I've targetted, and SCH can bust out WAY higher numbers than a WHM ever could for ST, both over the length of a fight, and in a single GCD. Lustrate/Physick/RousedEmbrace absolutely decimates WHM in ST healingThere is no way for a WHM to compare to a SCH's single target. Period
    When has anything ever been so serious you needed all that ST healing? It's almost like saying "SCH can eat more hotdogs than WHM" With PoM, Divine Seal on both Regens cast preemptively, and Cure2 spam is more than enough healing to surpass a SCH in a 15 sec window of healing spam(Benediction for OH SNAP moments). Yea I know you said throught the whole fight, but what good does it do SCH to be the better ST healer? It's not like WHM is flawed at it by any means so bringing it up is pointless. It's not like when comparing AoE heals. Now there's a no brainer.
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    Last edited by Rydia13; 09-02-2014 at 10:12 PM.

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