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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    Just curious, is there an emergency removal password for those that have the hardware token?

    What would be the method to gain access if your token stops working?

    I've tried to figure this out before but could not.

    EXAMPLE: https://secure.square-enix.com/accou...vc/coercioncan

    This removal form only references the soft-token. What if you have a hardware token? Odd there is no corresponding form.

    I ask because I got my hardware token when they first started offering them with FFXI. It must be 7 years old. Gonna die sometime soon >.<
    You will need to login to Square Enix Account Management to remove the physical token but once removed you can't use it anymore. can read more about it here

    Quote Originally Posted by Vallug View Post
    Where is the code in case something goes wrong?I cant find it.
    Login to Square Enix Account Management, you will see it once you are login.

    The instruction for emergency password removal is also sent to your email address, so emm check you email every time you register something then you won't miss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    Just curious, is there an emergency removal password for those that have the hardware token?

    What would be the method to gain access if your token stops working?

    I've tried to figure this out before but could not.

    EXAMPLE: https://secure.square-enix.com/accou...vc/coercioncan

    This removal form only references the soft-token. What if you have a hardware token? Odd there is no corresponding form.

    I ask because I got my hardware token when they first started offering them with FFXI. It must be 7 years old. Gonna die sometime soon >.<
    Maybe you can generate one and write it down for later use? Not sure if a code stays usable for a long time though...
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    The hardware token has a key on the back which you use to access your account to remove it when the battery runs low.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    So much for password hashes and 16-character passwords. Your password is secure only as long as the hashes are not in cracker hands.
    That article was a journalistic experiment, not what happened to Sony. Security breeches happen, change your password... & move on. This is part the reason SE has designed restrictions on the items in the game. Like spirit bonding, no trade, etc... There's no incentive to hack an account where the hacker would be forced to register their licensed copy to the account, for gear they can't steal & is worth only a few gil at best.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidvideo View Post
    I really doubt it happens this way. Strong passwords, common sense.

    Also, SE makes you link you account to the software license. Any changes or updates to the SE account generate an email notification. For a "hacker" to be that determined to hack the account, register THEIR copy of the software to my account, intercept the notification email... just so they can rmt, bot or merch my gear? You'll never convince me it's worth all that effort.
    There is no software license. The registration key is for creating an account and registering a platform version.
    Once a hacker have your account datas he can login to your account with a torrent downloaded client.

    This is wy every MMO producers say "Don't give away your account datas to another person"
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-19-2014 at 09:20 PM.

  6. #56
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    I recommend buying a hardware token. I've used and still use some software tokens but not SEs one because the required permissions are too much. Example:

    Battle.net Authenticator: No special permissions needed for this app
    SE software token: Camera/Microphone (uses at least on of following elements:camera/microphone); HardwareID&Phone information (App can access your phone number and hardware ID, is able to check when you do a call and read the remote number)


    Why does a software token need to know when I have a call and with whom? And what feature requires it to turn on my mic/cam??

    Hardware token costs 10$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elway358 View Post
    I've never even taken my little keyfob out of the wrapper from my CE. Being that I'm on PS4 and don't give out/use my log in info on strange sites/areas, I see it as an absolutely useless extra step that I have no desire to take.

    Even the free teleport benefit is not even close to enough incentive for me to be bothered with using it.
    I love people who call extra security "useless".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Uh, actually you can't. It won't let you log in with the PC client unless you have a PC code on said account.
    This.

    SE cracked down on this with FFXIV. In FFXI you used to be able to get around buying two copies with the game (and disk biased expansions) if you had a friend that played on the opposite platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by necrosis View Post
    This.

    SE cracked down on this with FFXIV. In FFXI you used to be able to get around buying two copies with the game (and disk biased expansions) if you had a friend that played on the opposite platform.
    Is that a fact? That's disappointing, but will hardly deter RMT. It does mean I'm not buying a used copy anywhere when I get a Ps4. Shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    There is no software license. The registration key is for creating an account and registering a platform version.
    Once a hacker have your account datas he can login to your account with a torrent downloaded client.
    registration key, software license, whatev. The copy of FFXIV that I purchased is registered to my SE account. A hacker's copy would need to be registered to my account... assuming they could get my user name & password... regardless, SE would send an email notification about the new registration. So, meh.
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