Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 22
  1. #1
    Player
    SirEdeonX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    701
    Character
    Edeon Vails
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60

    Curious Thing about Gilgamesh

    [SPOILERS, I guess]

    I remember reading a post about Gilgamesh and that the spear that Nael yields in turn 9 is in fact an aetherial reconstruction of Bradamante, since Hildibrand is the one with the real one. Which makes total sense.

    However, when Gilgamesh fires the spear at The Battle of Big Bridge, he casts Pradamante. Which to me means (following the FF tradition or Excalipoor) that he's actually yielding a fake one.

    Now the question is.. Where the hell is the real Bradamante?
    (5)

  2. #2
    Player
    Donjo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    980
    Character
    A'lyhhia Tahz
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Yep, the spear Greg has is fake. He reflects as such in the battle. I think the quote is "I've been had! This is far from the strongest of spears!"

    So... either Hildebrand performed a feat of extreme intelligence(ha!) and deliberately took a fake with him to Coerthas that day, or it is lost to the sands. dun Dun DUN!
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player
    Altimis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Unknow
    Posts
    423
    Character
    Altimis Farron
    World
    Aegis
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Probably got destroyed by Dalamud falling impact or Bahamut destruction all over the world (and spear itself got hit ;p)
    (0)

  4. #4
    Player
    axemtitanium's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    991
    Character
    Titania Basilikos
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I'm pretty sure Ferne confirmed that it was the real spear, Greg just was really bad at using it. So bad in fact, that he called it the wrong name.
    (3)

  5. #5
    Player
    Anonymoose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    5,030
    Character
    Anony Moose
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Ferne confirmed that Gilgamesh has the Bradamante. As for Gilgamesh saying, "I've been had!" There are two ways to take that.

    1) Bradamante has been confirmed to be the strongest of all spears, and he's realized he has a fake Bradamante.
    2) He assumed that Bradamante was the strongest of all spears, and he's realized that this is actually not the case.

    I dun think it's established canon that Bradamante is, in fact, the strongest of all spears, so I'm goin' with 2).

    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    Greg just was really bad at using it. So bad in fact, that he called it the wrong name.
    This is the best theory I've seen for Pradamante. Count me on board with that, lmao.
    (5)
    Last edited by Anonymoose; 07-01-2014 at 07:43 AM.
    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
    – Y'shtola

  6. #6
    Player
    Wadoka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    595
    Character
    Eilis Tozet
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 52
    Pradamante... that's the Spear of High Fashion, no?
    (8)

  7. #7
    Player
    Alenore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    439
    Character
    Alenore Llohen
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Just throwing that out there.
    (8)

  8. #8
    Player
    Lusavari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    673
    Character
    Vesperlyn Hayle
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Ferne confirmed that Gilgamesh has the Bradamante. As for Gilgamesh saying, "I've been had!" There are two ways to take that.

    1) Bradamante has been confirmed to be the strongest of all spears, and he's realized he has a fake Bradamante.
    2) He assumed that Bradamante was the strongest of all spears, and he's realized that this is actually not the case.

    I dun think it's established canon that Bradamante is, in fact, the strongest of all spears, so I'm goin' with 2).


    This is the best theory I've seen for Pradamante. Count me on board with that, lmao.
    My Understanding is not that he HAS but rather HAD it. When he was dueling people for their weapons, he had the real one. But then the accursed bird creature stole it from him, which he spends the entirety of the Hildebrand like hunting down. Is it not unreasonable that while thinking he managed to reclaim it, he found the imitation?

    Rather, is it not unreasonable that Nashau found the imitation buried in the snow. It's not like She nor Hildebrand (or Gilgamesh for that matter) are smart enough to appraise a fake at first glance.
    (1)

  9. #9
    Player
    Anonymoose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    5,030
    Character
    Anony Moose
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    Is it not unreasonable that while thinking he managed to reclaim it, he found the imitation?
    The imitation being the aetherial Bradamante from Turn 9? If one were going to try to keep the theory alive despite the things Ferne's said about it, pointing to a future conspiracy on the subject, that'd be the route I'd take it. Turn 9 and Battle on the Big Bridge both came out in 2.2, though, so the timeline would be wonky. You'd have to take it for granted that Turn 9 not only happens independent of Hildibrand's story (probably true), but happens before it (risky speculation). And then you'd need to find a way to explain how it got from the Holocharts 3.6 miles underground to somewhere it could be found.
    (0)
    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
    – Y'shtola

  10. #10
    Player
    Kicha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    67
    Character
    Kicha Migho
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    It probably surfaced the same way everything else does, our retainers found it and decided nah, they don't deserve this. /toss
    I'll just give my master a fish, masters love fish!
    (13)

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast