Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
How long have you all spent as a group engaged on these fights? Because if it's less than 10 hours... It is easy you need to put more time in. If it's more than 20 hours your group has someone in it who is very very slow and/or not a raider.
We raid 2 nights a week for about 2 hours a night. We've been doing Turn 5 since 2.2 came out. We have had some turnover in ranks - we've had to replace both tanks and a bard in that time. Last night one of our tanks couldn't make it, so we subbed in a tank from our FC who had never done it before. To his credit, he caught on quickly and only got hit by a couple dive bombs, but overall we didn't get to the twister phase.

I did find out that 2 of our people (BRD and SCH) ran Turn 5 with a pug group the night before and beat it, so now they've got some tips for us to modify our techniques. Maybe that's the push we'll need to finally get past this.

But, really - it's not EASY to me. Not at all. But I guess I'm just not very good.