This game is far to difficult.

[HeroSamson]

what makes me mad about this game, is the fact it relies too heavy on tank and healers.

what I mean is in FFXI at least you could hold off a monster with dragoon or a dps class long enough to get your tank back up, even if they have weakness you could tank half decent.

here its like no damn chance, your healer or tank die you are brown bread you ain't tanking anything with any dps its a few cracks your dead, even healer cant heal you up good enough and raise at the same time and have enough mp to keep curing.

but I deal with it, though still think its messed up also.

when you get echo buff, I some how feel its a illusion, the monsters seem to hit even harder with it on. its just there to give people a sense of comfort, I honestly believe that.

[Zarzak]

what makes me mad about this game, is the fact it relies too heavy on tank and healers.

what I mean is in FFXI at least you could hold off a monster with dragoon or a dps class long enough to get your tank back up, even if they have weakness you could tank half decent.
here its like no damn chance, your healer or tank die you are brown bread you ain't tanking anything with any dps its a few cracks your dead, even healer cant heal you up good enough and raise at the same time and have enough mp to keep curing.

but I deal with it, though still think its messed up also.

when you get echo buff, I some how feel its a illusion, the monsters seem to hit even harder with it on. its just there to give people a sense of comfort, I honestly believe that.

I'll agree I miss the EQ/FFXI classes before the cut and dry archtypes were introduced with WoW. (I don't remember in FFXI but in EQ.. the difference between a "tank" warrior and a "dps" warrior was which one of them hit taunt. The tank was doing equal if not higher (due to riposte) dps to the "dps" warrior and any hybrid that was the result of mixing a tank class with anything else (such as ranger being a warrior/druid hybrid) could in a pinch tank just as well. And outside of a raid situation could be full out tanks with a little extra healing.

That being said I did have one epic Titan ex back in 2.1 where 1 tank got knocked off right before 2nd add set. So the drg got one add and I (monk) for the 2nd. Then the other tank got knocked off and I went into full monk tank mode and kept it going for 8-9% (thank you healers!) until the 2nd MB hit me at like 1% and the drg got the final couple seconds of glory.

[Edenholt]

My three cents:
1 - This game isnt difficult, but it require 8 people to focus on it for less than 12min and do more than stand still and spam skill, like most DPS do in dungeons.
2 - The OP obviously do, indeed, mind challenges, or else we wouldnt have this thread.
3 - I started doing t5 without watch a single video, only got an overral explantion before my first try from my previous raid leader and learned the machics on the go (I was the tank), less than a week later, with like 1hr of raid only, we took down t5 and then we started finish all five turns in less than 1hr right on the second week. This game isn't hard, at all, but it does require some investiment (focus, interest and desire to do thing).

People only ask to make things easier and easier. It's not entitlement anymore, it's pure lazy. They pick a random group, with people they dont even know and expect to preform well in a fight that require team work in a game most players don't even bother picking up a damn key to open the door to the boos room in dungeons.

[Zarzak]

My three cents:
1 - This game isnt difficult, but it require 8 people to focus on it for less than 12min and do more than stand still and spam skill, like most DPS do in dungeons.
2 - The OP obviously do, indeed, mind challenges, or else we wouldnt have this thread.
3 - I started doing t5 without watch a single video, only got an overral explantion before my first try from my previous raid leader and learned the machics on the go (I was the tank), less than a week later, with like 1hr of raid only, we took down t5 and then we started finish all five turns in less than 1hr right on the second week. This game isn't hard, at all, but it does require some investiment (focus, interest and desire to do thing).

People only ask to make things easier and easier. It's not entitlement anymore, it's pure lazy. They pick a random group, with people they dont even know and expect to preform well in a fight that require team work in a game most players don't even bother picking up a damn key to open the door to the boos room in dungeons.

Welcome to the past 6-7 years of MMOs. Before the devs started giving them everything they wanted on a silver platter the people usually all quit before the crying really started. I'd love to see a group of the entitled generation be given max geared/stat characters in EQ or FFXI (or hell even original WoW before they gave in) and be put up against a actually hard fight.

These days people expect to be able to pug raids aka bring in a group of the lowest common denominator (which is what happened to the group game and started this lovely snowball effect) and succeed.

Also we should be friends.

[Litre]

They already said they were looking into maybe altering instant-kill mechanics in older content such as titan ex and t5, so that they are survivable.

Easing content happens with time. That said, if you befriend the good players you come across, forming a win party shouldn't be TOO tough.

Hey where is this source? Just curious.

[Rhas]

This game is far to difficult.

[Cherie]

This whole situation is what I call the: "Goldilocks Paradox"!

We're are too divided as a community as far as what we want. Throw us all together and we can't agree. It's hard to find others that want to approach the game with the same interest level as one's self.

Seems to me that some people just don't want to try very hard and others want to try very very hard. Throwing those people together just leads to frustration. Then there is the third group. They want to project they are trying very hard to fit in with the "hardcore" people, but really aren't and want to get all volatile to any "help" they might receive (because it might ruin the illusion? I have no idea). I think judging one's own interest level is necessary to hang in this game. Because asking for nerfs all the time isn't a solution in the long run. I think a better solution is if they found a way to bunch us up better with people that have the same interest level. Wanting to be casual is a perfect approach, but just have to pair up with some casual people that are just as casual as you. Throwing in some "hardcore" or some people that "think" they are hardcore isn't going to help you. They bail at the first sign of trouble while a casual person might just enjoy wiping until they get it. Mixing groups of people with different interest levels just leads to unpleasantness than none of us enjoy.

[Duuude007]

Isn't some saying its too hard, and some saying its too easy... the best scenario possible for a successful MMO?

[Wildsprite]

No, I think the solution would be to have an easy mode without the rewards. The hardcore players can keep on doing what they are doing and the casual can clear the content they want and not feel left out.

I think a better solution would be to introduce practice modes of these dungeons(and the trials).
the difficulty levels are the same, but there is no major loot(you still get things like gil and such) and you don't get the penalties like gear wear.
the idea being to allow you to keep going till you get the machanics of it.
you still get small rewards from it but no gear(afterall why would you bother with the real versions of the dungeon then)

[Killabye]

The game is too hard. If I had worked my job the hours I played t5 before winning I'd have made about 10,000$. Instead I haven't even gotten my sword from it.