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    Zarzak's Avatar
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi View Post
    I have been stuck trying to clear Coil Turn 5 for months. I know how to do the fight perfectly but it doesn't matter if the others can't do it. I have joined countless "farm" parties that can't survive twisters. Finding a full party of decent players is like winning the lottery, clearly raids on this game are just to much for the majority of players.

    Why can we not have two tiers of raids like WoW? Instead of making an even harder mode of Coil that nobody will be able to do, when its already extremely challenging,

    Well A. The Raid finder has generally been considered the worst thing to ever happen. Ever. And is largely credited as the reason subs took a huge hit. But more importantly...

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    If you know the fight perfectly and are only failing because your groups with pugs and bad players. The content is not challenging and in fact it is not. Any RAIDER (not someone who says "I want to raid so I will!!" but someone who puts in the time, energy, and effort to know their class and the fight. Can and has (ask any guild working through 6-9) learned every fight in under 15 hours each. Which is less than a dozen instance timers.

    Just because the raid content isn't being pugged (its RAID content it shouldn't be) does not make it hard. Raids are content designed for high end organized teams. CT is what your looking for if your not interested in joining one.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaliaBrown View Post
    I refuse to believe that either of these fights are easy.


    How long have you all spent as a group engaged on these fights? Because if it's less than 10 hours... It is easy you need to put more time in. If it's more than 20 hours your group has someone in it who is very very slow and/or not a raider.

    No fights in this game are hard. Hell get a cheerleader squad. They learn cheers in less time than this I'm sure and if anyone believes FFXIV raids are not as choreographed as that they are not paying attention. You could LITERALLY write down a step by step guide to any class for any fight in the game right now. If a dog can learn how to open a door and play fetch someone with half a brain who cares enough to pay enough attention can do any of these fights.

    Hell for arguments sake lets go through T5 as a melee dps in clip notes form.

    Step 1: Tanks engage pick one of the adds and do your rotation until it dies.
    Step 2: move to another add and repeat.
    Step 3: move to the last add and repeat.
    Step 4: move to Twintania and do your rotation
    Step 5: Collar piece falls off. Hold until someone gets a red triangle over their head. If you go to step 6a. If not go to step 6b.
    Step 6a: Move to designated fireball drop point (likely a pile of pets/OT or a stack of dps on your assigned side)
    Step 6b: Move to Twintania and continue your rotation.
    Step 6: Blue circle goes out on someone's head. If you go to step 7a. If not go to 7b.
    Step 7a: Move under twintania in the middle of her target ring.
    Step 7b: Take a couple steps back to ensure you do not end up inside conflag. Target and dps conflag once it appears.
    Step 8: DPS conflag until someone gets a red triangle over their head. If you go to step 9a. If not go to step 9b.
    Step 9a: Move to designated fireball drop point (likely a pile of pets/OT or a stack of dps on your assigned side)
    Step 9b: Continue dpsing conflag until it dies.
    Step 10: Once conflag is dead go back to dpsing Twin.
    Step 11: Blue circle goes out on someone's head. If you go to step 12a. If not go to 12b.
    Step 12a: Move under twintania in the middle of her target ring.
    Step 12b: Take a couple steps back to ensure you do not end up inside conflag. Target and dps conflag once it appears. This is a short conflag pop short burns and dps conflag until it dies.
    Step 13: repeat Steps 6-12 until a 2nd collar piece drops.
    Step 14: Move to divebomb position (designated before pull)
    Step 15: When green circle appears (or if you have Twin on focus as soon as she appears back on focus target) run forward 10 steps.
    Step 16: Move back to divebomb position.
    Step 17: Repeat steps 15 and 16 two more times.
    Step 18: Target large snake in middle and while positioning at divebomb position dps for 45 seconds.
    Step 19: Repeat steps 15 and 16 two more times while continuing to dps large snake.
    Step 20: Repeat step 15 but this time continue running forward following the tanks and dpsing the large snake.
    Step 21: Kill large snake. (don't worry about small snakes Mr. Melee the casters will handle them)
    Step 22: stand in one of the previously dropped collar pieces until Twin finishes her cast.
    Step 23: Attack Twin until she begins to cast Twister.
    Step 24: Once twister begins casting run without crossing your own or anyone elses path until cast finishes.
    Step 25: Go back to dpsing Twin while avoiding any green markers on the ground you may see.
    Step 26: Dreadknight will spawn in the middle of the room. Run away from it until it has picked its target. If you go to step 27a. If not go to 27b.
    Step 27a: Your stun locked. Enjoy the break to regen some TP and cheer your fellow dps on for keeping you from dying a horrible death.
    Step 27b: One of your friends is stun locked!!!! Shoulder Tackle or Jump to that mean Dreadknight and kill it before your poor friend meets an untimely death.
    Step 28: Repeat steps 23-27 until the final piece of collar drops.
    Step 29: No more of those annoying twisters or Dreadknights! DPS twintania to victory! If she starts shooting fireballs at you see Step 30.
    Step 30: FIRE RUN!!!!!!! (until it stops at least then back to Step 29!)
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    Last edited by Zarzak; 06-19-2014 at 06:35 AM.