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    Legacy_Wolfwood's Avatar
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NaliaBrown View Post
    So I guess this means my group just sucks because we've been trying for months with echo and all of us at i90+.
    if thats what you are guessing then that is up to you. but trying for "Months" with a full team of i90+ with echo and the same static over and over... sounds like someone or something that is related to the team is making the fight consistently unsuccessful.

    just saying, if its a static and you all are over geared and trying for "months" with no progress. its not the fight mechanics as you had "months" to learn them.

    ex: keep dying to twisters? move. focus target helps. divebombs? move. theres a big green/black circle. latency? thats not the fights fault tbh.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaliaBrown View Post
    We know the fight. We know what's coming. It's a matter of actually doing it - that's where the difficulty comes in. We weren't good enough to beat it before. I get that.
    see above. i'd expect a team learning for a month to know the fight. you should know whats coming then. not doing what you need to do is not the fights fault, thats the players end. thats not difficult if you had "months" of practice and learning.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaliaBrown View Post
    But no matter what anyone here says, I still think it's a hard fight. Knowing it and being able to do it are completely different things.
    the fight was not supposed to be easy in the 1st place. everyone knew that. but now people are able to be over geared and have an echo buff that makes the fight MUCH easier than before. Knowing it and being able to do it are the same things imo. with "months" of practice and learning, you should know whats coming and what to do. if you don't then you haven't been paying attention for "months" and just looking to get carried. so yeah, you should know and be able to do what you need to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaliaBrown View Post
    I know Titan EX, too. Doesn't help when I accidentally move to early on Weight of the Land or get busted out of a Gaol into a landslide.
    this is a bad example for your defense. you can move early on weight and do fine. keep moving and you'll avoid it, just try not to get your team killed by it. though 1 weight everyone should be able to eat with their ilvls now a days. and if you hit echo it'll be fine. 1 weight is better than multi stacked. but still shouldn't be getting caught in it. Getting busted out of a goal into a landslide, that is your teams fault. not the fight mechanics. if your team doesn't how to handle that situation after 1 time seeing it, then they don't know that fight as well as they thought.

    i get it, we are human, we make mistakes. but you should be learning and fixing the mistakes that are able to be fixed. latency is the only thing you cant 100% fix. but blaming fight mechanics due to yourself or the team not learning and fixing is just sad.
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    Nalia Danger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy_Wolfwood View Post
    i get it, we are human, we make mistakes. but you should be learning and fixing the mistakes that are able to be fixed. latency is the only thing you cant 100% fix. but blaming fight mechanics due to yourself or the team not learning and fixing is just sad.
    I must not be stating clearly. I'm just trying to say that these fights are NOT EASY, even with echo and gear. I'm not blaming anything. I just want people to realize that this stuff isn't something that can be done easily and quickly if you have a static group. Seeing everyone posting here saying how easy the fight is is really discouraging to me. Maybe I'm just a slow learner, or my raid team is slow to learn. I don't know. But I'll repeat what I said - knowing what to do and actually doing it right are two very different things. And that's what makes fights like Twintania or Titan EX difficult. I refuse to believe that either of these fights are easy.
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