This game is far to difficult.

[Karupika]

Haha big lol @ topic. Memorize the fucking attack rotation like everyone else did in december 2013 and do the rope jump, "this game is too hard" hahahaha, no but seriously thats just your lack of friends and/or a LS and you know what, MMORPG is not meant to be played solo >.>

[Rosy]

Then MMOs isn't for everybody either, there are casual content and endgame content just do casual and grind Novus everyday casually or leave and play offline games.

Let's hope nobody takes your advice about leaving...or you'll have no game!

Haha big lol @ topic. Memorize the fucking attack rotation like everyone else did in december 2013 and do the rope jump, "this game is too hard" hahahaha, no but seriously thats just your lack of friends and/or a LS and you know what, MMORPG is not meant to be played solo >.>

I'm guessing you're just the type of person people try to avoid in LS's and statics, hence there are quite a lot of people not willing to go down that route to do content. This is why in other mmorpgs we have guilds, where the players are all friends and the impolite, "every other word is the F word" people are excluded. Unfortunately in this game FC's (guilds) are totally irrelevant, as the game REQUIRES that you go out and find 7 other people, however unpleasant they are, to do content instead of being able to do it with a guild.

[SarcasmMisser]

Does that make it fine? Lock out loot but not the option for me to help my friends during the weekend. Can't you see how bad this is for building a community? It forces fragmentation in a FC for no reason whatsoever. "because others do it too" is not a good reason.

His point and mine was that these prophetic warnings of community destruction in raiding mmos happen all the time and have yet to materialize, making these complaints look like nothing but hot air. I would even say that threads like these are the symptoms of good challenging raids, and SE should continue doing good work. In fact I'm going to repost this again because people keep on forgetting that the inability to help other groups is something Yoshida is aware of and it is absolutely working as intended.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/120873-F.A.T.E.-in-Tokyo-%284-26-4-27%29-Translations

Attendee: With the one week lockouts on all of the end-game content, I feel like the armoury system is completely useless.
Yoshida: With the second coil, it's set up so your progress is saved and reset each week, with the idea being that you challenge it on your main job and take rewards for that job, and only take rewards for other jobs once other players dont need them. Are you talking about the fact that your job choice is limited?
Attendee: Honestly, it's not even so much about the rewards, I'd just like to participate in it again.
Yoshida: Hm?
Attendee: Once I clear the content in one week, I'd like to be able to at least try on another job.
Yoshida: You mean in the sense that you can help other people. In that case, our concern is that by being able to excessively help other people by going around with groups that can't clear the content on their own yet, the hierarchy of the more and more powerful items would be broken too quickly. We worry about this and this and the development team does understand the current circumstances. It's really a difficult question to answer, but that's why we've chosen our current policy and we'll continue to mitigate it in stages.

[blowfin]

But this is... common for MMO "end" raids. If it were really so bad, you would see more MMOs phasing out such lockouts on even the highest tier content.

Just because it's "common" doesn't make it a good idea, nor does it mean different companies will execute it well. Are you referring to MMO's that have gone F2P or just to Wow? It's important to keep in mind that it's great for it's main purpose, which is gating us until the next content comes out, but it comes at a high price: segregating people into statics and effectively leaving behind people in your FC/LS who aren't so lucky. I lost count of the amount of people leaving the FC in the early days because they got left out of Coil1 groups, there is no way that's "building community".

Lockouts are necessary of course, I've just seen it done about a thousand times better in other titles (hint: XI). If what we have here is very similar to other "successful" MMO's, then I think it's high time those ideas got re-thought. Not in the least because the vast majority of recent MMO releases have gone F2P within a year.

His point and mine was that these prophetic warnings of community destruction in raiding mmos happen all the time and have yet to materialize, making these complaints look like nothing but hot air.

No, the community is fractured to begin with. In the case of this game it's been that way since 2.0.

Yoshida: You mean in the sense that you can help other people. In that case, our concern is that by being able to excessively help other people by going around with groups that can't clear the content on their own yet, the hierarchy of the more and more powerful items would be broken too quickly. We worry about this and this and the development team does understand the current circumstances. It's really a difficult question to answer, but that's why we've chosen our current policy and we'll continue to mitigate it in stages.

This basically boils down to: Because..... gating.

[Duuude007]

If what we have here is very similar to other "successful" MMO's, then I think it's high time those ideas got re-thought. Not in the least because the vast majority of recent MMO releases have gone P2P within a year.

Isn't easing the difficulty over subsequent patches through echo and removing lockouts the result of re-thinking classic lockout designs?

Just saying...

[Zumi]

Here is why weekly lockouts work much better in other MMOs. Because in almost every other MMO your character can only be 1 class. In FFXIV your character can play every class. While in the other MMO you may have 10 character slots per server and you level up several classes. Lets say in FFXIV you level up all 8 battle classes, however in the other MMO you have 8 separate characters. Both games have the weekly lockout on raids because that is what most modern mmos do.

In a non FFXIV mmo, now you have your main you raid on you are only locked out on that 1 character, you want to go raid with other people in your guild or your more casual friends you have 7 more other characters you have leveled up to go on each with a different class.

[Moqi]

I'd say it's more unforgiving than difficult. I don't want to be in a static but doing some things without one seems impossible. You mess up once and it's a wipe; you want other 7 people, and it's back to square one...

[blowfin]

Isn't easing the difficulty over subsequent patches through echo and removing lockouts the result of re-thinking classic lockout designs?

Just saying...

No, that's a result of vertical progression and out-dating content with every patch cycle.

Here is why weekly lockouts work much better in other MMOs. Because in almost every other MMO your character can only be 1 class. In FFXIV your character can play every class. While in the other MMO you may have 10 character slots per server and you level up several classes. Lets say in FFXIV you level up all 8 battle classes, however in the other MMO you have 8 separate characters. Both games have the weekly lockout on raids because that is what most modern mmos do.

Exactly, it's not uncommon for people to run coil multiple times in a week using alts. If that's not a sign of broken design I don't know what is.

[Edli]

Here is why weekly lockouts work much better in other MMOs. Because in almost every other MMO your character can only be 1 class. In FFXIV your character can play every class.

Exactly. On other MMOs you run it as a healer, then as a tank or DPS. On FFXIV you run it as a healer and you're done. You don't implement features only because other MMOs do it. You have to take into account how it is going to affect your game. Not every MMO is the same.

[Barboron]

I am tired of people giving up and making fake "farm" parties.

...have you tried making a party yourself?