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  1. #11
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    Raeanya's Avatar
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    Raeanya Ashurke
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 58
    I'm probably about as casual as you can get. For me, I don't have a problem with the difficulty level, because I know it can be beaten. It might take more effort on my part to find that perfect group, or pull from my FC, but knowing that someone at least cleared the content gives me hope that maybe I too will someday clear that same content.

    I know it is difficult for some to find 7 other people who have the skill, or at least care enough to learn through failure. I have yet to grow a pair big enough to try any Coil 1 or Garuda EX (I have both unlocked), but I know that the mechanics might prove to be a challenge, but not impossible as long as we all try.
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  2. #12
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi View Post
    Well maybe not no loot but lower item level versions of the gear.
    From my experience in other games, I really don't see it working all that well. Some people are ok with it and willing to do something like you've asked for, but many want the better stuff, not no loot or sub par loot.

    And like others have said, these encounters aren't all that difficult, especially when compared to other MMOs.
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  3. #13
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    Jera Teiwaz
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    Siren
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    how long does it really take to figure out what skills the boss is using? and how to deal with them?
    i'm not expecting everyone to be all pro....but it's just memorizing simple patterns.
    That's only a small part of the problem. The real question is, How long does it really take '8 people' to figure out what skills the boss is using 'and coordinate as a group'?

    The rest of the problem is not taking the initiative to gather a static group, because going in with random players with random mindsets and random strategies each duty run will never end well. In fact, I'm gonna go the distance and say, if you don't want to form a static, you're not serious about beating end-game content.
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  4. #14
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    Aemon Targaryen
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    The real issue here isn't the difficulty of content but rather the difficulty in finding a group of players to progress with. It seems, in my experience on my server, that most FC's don't run a lot of content together anymore. Finding a static that works with your schedule can also be very difficult. But instead of focusing on joining every T5 party you see, this should be your focus. Once you find a steady group, you will clear content. It may take some time for some members to learn the content as well as you already know it, but it's much better than being consistently frustrated by random people.

    T5 with echo and i90++ gear is already "easy mode." The increase in difficulty from T5-T6 is already significant and if T5 were made any easier people who cleared it after another nerf would likely feel like T6 were insurmountable in comparison.
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  5. #15
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    Raeanya Ashurke
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 58
    I think most of the problems that people have in any DF group can be solved like this:

    /p Hey, lets take a moment to go over strategy.
    (11)

  6. #16
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    Kuzie Kukuri
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Really, the only argument I could see against further reducing the difficulty is that the only thing gated by T5 is T6+, all of which are more difficult than the current iteration of T5, so the brick wall fight would T6 instead.
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    Questing is like participating in an Old Spice Commercial - Talk to me, talk to him, talk to me, talk to him, Now Talk To Me...Sadly, you are not done, back to him, look there, its that mob I never liked, back to me, back to him...I'm in the Waking Sands.

  7. #17
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I see you're from Hyperion. I would gladly help you to beat T5, it's matter to get competent people in order to clear it without wipes. Solo tank, ofc.
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  8. #18
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 80
    Honest advice: form a static to clear. You're going to have to weed out those who do not put effort to improve but doing this you can even move onto T6 with those people you cleared T5 with and get onto doing that content too.
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  9. #19
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    Luna Tate
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi View Post
    I have been stuck trying to clear Coil Turn 5 for months.
    Quote Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi View Post
    I don't mind a challenge but I am tired of people giving up and making fake "farm" parties.
    I feel sorry for you. I suggest just dfing it instead of join farm PT, it's already easy tho success on df for me is 1Win : 3x DF. GL HF
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  10. #20
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    Syanonn Rias
    World
    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by shrek View Post
    I feel sorry for you. I suggest just dfing it instead of join farm PT, it's already easy tho success on df for me is 1Win : 3x DF. GL HF
    Success rate of DF on JP data center is considerably higher than NA data centers... something I learned when I transferred from Mandragora > Balmung
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