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    Roulette class bonus 'broken' during off peak hours

    the roulette class bonus seem to be based on the 'average wait time', however the 'average wait time' doesn't reflect how many players of each class category are currently on queue at all during off peak hours. e.g. many groups might actually be waiting for DPS while the roulette indicates that Tanks are in need, hence 'broken'
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    I do agree that there seems to be some weirdness with the class bonus. I'll queue up on a healer bonus and wait 7 minutes in the queue. Same on tank - 5 minutes or so. Guess those classes weren't "really" needed.

    Then again, the entire queue system could use some serious tweaks to lower times and fix problems with finishing dungeons after members leave so...
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    If you are waiting for a DPS in a duty roullette...... the 1st DPS was probably first in queue for a specific dungeon..... thats all it is.

    Lets say I was a Bard.... queued for Sunken Temple.

    You queue in roullette and get put in my group
    The Healer gets popped in that group...

    and now your waiting for a random DPS to join it...... Thing is, you 3 are locked into a specific dungeon waiting for a queue.... i dont think it has anything to do with the average queue times, its the fact that if you are waiting for a DPS in a roullette, its more the fact that they waited their turn.... the next DPS that queues Sunken Temple is probably getting an insta queue..... it happens.
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    My point is what is 'in need' would suggest that if I queue the 'in need' role, I'm likely to get the shortest queue, but that's clearly not the case. the REAL role 'in need' has to be figured out via trial and error i.e. if I see this roulette says role in need is 'Tank', and I queue as a tank, but after 1 min or so I receive no queue update at all, suggesting this roulette I am queuing doesn't really need tank. Now I'll withdraw, change to healer, and requeue for the same roulette. still no update after 1 min in queue, so I withdraw again and change to DPS for yet another requeue. and guess what? I get a pop within 30 seconds. even if it doesn't pop, I will get a near-full queue update showing the party only need 1 or 2 more player to form.

    it works like this every single time, you never know what's the REAL role 'in need' until you do the trial and error method described above. that's why I said the system is 'broken' because I don't think it works as intended
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    of course, I believe this probably only happens often during off peak hours, and they probably won't 'fix' it, but I'll still just bring it up if nobody else bothered
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    So you would rather jump OUT of queue.... to test another role and see if you get an insta-queue? Sounds like you cant find something to do to wait 3 mins for a dungeon pop...

    Dont see a problem with the system as it is..... I think your just impatient
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyHighDN View Post
    If you are waiting for a DPS in a duty roullette...... the 1st DPS was probably first in queue for a specific dungeon..... thats all it is.

    Lets say I was a Bard.... queued for Sunken Temple.

    You queue in roullette and get put in my group
    The Healer gets popped in that group...

    and now your waiting for a random DPS to join it...... Thing is, you 3 are locked into a specific dungeon waiting for a queue.... i dont think it has anything to do with the average queue times, its the fact that if you are waiting for a DPS in a roullette, its more the fact that they waited their turn.... the next DPS that queues Sunken Temple is probably getting an insta queue..... it happens.
    +1, some people cannot think further than their nose.
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    while it's just a minor quality of life issue, a flaw is a flaw, I brought it up just for the game quality's sake

    if you don't see a problem, you don't see a problem, you can choose either to refute with reason or ignore this topic
    respond with the accusation of impatience or not thinking only expose your teenager mentality
    well, but if you are indeed teenagers there's nothing else much for me to say *shrugs
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    Actually, I am 30 years old, and hold a job where I work 60 hours a week. Not bragging, but I am not a teenager.... nor do I have a teenage mentality.

    The "broken" aspect that you mentioned is so insignificant that it shouldnt even be addressed. The fact that SE even gives "Adventurer in Need" bonuses is a luxury. If you chose to queue as the role in need, then go ahead and get the bonus. If not, its not for you.

    The Adventurer in need changes from time to time. Maybe hourly? maybe every 3 hours? Not quite sure. But since the award is only awarded once per day, there really isnt much of a reason to exploit the queue, you wont receive the extra award.

    Your argument is that the roullette "role bonus" doesnt change in real time to reflect which role is needed at that specific moment. Gee, golly! Do you need your bonuses spoon fed to you? Instant queue, and a bonus for it too? Brother I would honestly say..... R-E-L-A-X!!

    The roullette is probably calculating which role is needed over the path of ALL THE SERVERS, at a specific interval, and responding by putting a bonus into place to curb the back up from the calculation of the period before..... just like FATE difficulty scales to the last instance of the FATE with population.... its not an exact science, but it serves its purpose. More than likely, whichever roullette it is, its going to need a healer or a tank, since the DPS population is way too saturated. Sorry for the obvious slap in the face.

    And my earlier comment still holds true. Why would you willingly jump out of queue, to change roles, and re-queue to TEST the wait time. You'll find more success just staying in queue, and finding something else to do while waiting.... thing levequests, crafting, beastmen... anything.... So really, the only explanation and rebuttal to your original post is......

    1.) DONT BE LAZY
    2.) STOP ASKING SE TO HAND YOU BONUSES ON A LOLLIPOP
    3.) FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO WHILE QUEUING
    4.) ROLL AS A TANK (or as a healer nowadays) AND YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE WILL IMPROVE
    5.) FIND A NEW GAME

    your "broken" status is that bonus awards are not updated in real time...... I think that belongs at the very bottom of a long list of priorities. Yes, your right, its a minor flaw in the game....But there are way more important issues for the game masters to still consider.... like RMT farmers, atma (everything about it), Austrailian PINGs, PS3 lag issues, new content, and overhauling the market board.

    Lanceton, is that a more appropriate response? Or would you like me to elaborate further. Your point is moot. Stick to your queue, find something to do, and be happy. Want faster queues, be a tank.... if not, suffer in the abysmal life of a DPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanceton View Post
    while it's just a minor quality of life issue, a flaw is a flaw, I brought it up just for the game quality's sake

    if you don't see a problem, you don't see a problem, you can choose either to refute with reason or ignore this topic
    respond with the accusation of impatience or not thinking only expose your teenager mentality
    well, but if you are indeed teenagers there's nothing else much for me to say *shrugs

    Get defeated in an arguement?

    Scream "idiot teenager!"
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