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  1. #11
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    Crimson-Falcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayto View Post
    Tbh Paladin's shitty flash can't keep hate against flare crits.
    And you have no answer for medica II spammers.
    Cover is your option while you get your flat hate of flash to build up from a hard crit.
    Sound more like a bad paladin yourself that holds people back.

    Don't compare cover to something as narrow as one-ilm punch... that's laughable. You wanna compare something to one-ilm punch, try holmgang.

    Anyways, on-topic for the thread:

    Seems cover follows this rule: If you can prompt a block/parry for the attack (you can block/parry a mountain buster despite it being 'magic attack) you can cover it. Maybe even if it's AoE (mountain buster is also AoE).
    mountain buster isnt even magic attack no titan attacks are magical

    and wait flash cant keep hate against flares?

    guess you didnt tank SR brayflox before

    i can easily keep hate while im sleeping

    wen im undergeared to BLMs maybe i lose aggro

    medica 2 spammers yea i agree with you

    as for holmgang its way useful than many bad warriors think it is

    and if healer kept using aggro king skills while should i be helpful and keep him/her alive let him/her die so they know the mistake


    Quote Originally Posted by Minako View Post
    Um, what? If I aggro something or for whatever reason pull hate, the first thing you should do is run to the tank. Why? Because if they have to chase you down because you're running around, they won't get hate back. Oh, they provoked and then you casted a cure? You negated that provoke. Simple solution, bring the mob to the tank, they halone/BB and no issues. How do I know this? Because I main a SCH and sub WHM as a pair with a tank. And sometimes, if I nuke, bane gets me hate (assuming on SCH). I prefer contributing damage rather than standing there with my thumb up my butt sitting on full mp. So, yeah, if you aren't bringing mobs to the tank, you need to reconsider how you play as a healer and try helping your tank rather than making them work harder because you don't feel like taking a few steps forward.
    im not talking about losing aggro i mean if the tank keeping aggro great why would healer run to tank for cover wen cover range is 5 yalms
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    Last edited by Crimson-Falcon; 06-17-2014 at 04:31 PM.

  2. #12
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    She aggro'd the forums pretty well.
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    Last edited by Vallug; 06-17-2014 at 04:48 PM.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    this is wrong on so many levels, you do know there are mechanics in the game that negates the hate table right? like Goblin snipers and gliders in brayflox or turn 7 Lamia Archers, if someone is taking too much damage, a cover can be a life saver before the tank grab back hate or kill the add. It certainly isn't the useless skill you make it out to be.
    still range is a heavy major downside that skill got

    if range is around 15 yalms the skill might prove some worth of usage no one will risk his/her life staying 5 yalms from the tank

    titan EX and T8 are completely excluded conditions
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  4. #14
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    Speaking as a healer whose main paladin friend frequently uses Cover correctly, there have been many times I've seen the skill completely save from the odd mistake in difficult fights.

    T4 is a good one. If I'm not concentrating it's really easy to overheal at the end of a phase/start of the next and then all the bug aggro comes to me. Pally covers me, I run over to feed but don't take a cleave to the face in doing so as he takes it for me. Similar has happened a couple of times in T6, too, since mostly we're all stacked together it's easy for the tank to see who's moved too far forwards or can't get out of the way of something in time.
    Cover is a very situational skill, but it is FAR from useless in the hands of a good paladin.
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    The range is 10 yalms and its freaking huge, you can almost cover from the middle to the wall in T6. note : great for covering a dps with honey glaze during a blight phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    mountain buster isnt even magic attack no titan attacks are magical
    Tumults, Bombs, Geocrush, and Weight of the Land are all magic damage.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Tumults, Bombs, Geocrush, and Weight of the Land are all magic damage.

    yea rite use manawall and tell me if it negated any damage from those
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    yea rite use manawall and tell me if it negated any damage from those
    You want me to use the ability that negates physical attacks? Sorry, I'm not that gullible. Now, I do have it on good authority that if you actually use the ability that negates magic damage, it affects those attacks.
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    The skill really only shines in pvp. Pretty much match winning skill, when used correctly.
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    Alrik Rouge
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    Cover could be used strategically - as an example given above on T4, healer could intentionally use Medica or Medica II to get mobs to come in while PLD uses cover and a CD, to get all needed aggro since the adds will now be in one place. On bray SR, I've used cover on the BLM or WHM so as to allow AoE attacks go uninterrupted if they don't have sure cast up and ready on the second pull where the mobs target randomly. Can also be used on Copper HM on last boss since the last adds aren't able to be pulled off whomever they target, especially if you have two casters and whose spells get interrupted.

    I agree it is most often used (IF ever) in "oh crap" moments, but like the OP posted, you could find a strategic use of it (like I put above in T4). Still limited, yes. Still not awesome, yes. Useful - still actually testing and finding strategic uses.
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