Please Change the Wording for STR and DEX!

[chococo]

One issue with this system is that in the long-run, there will be more jobs requiring STR than DEX cos naturally there will be more melee DPS than ranged DPS. There are many weapon types to give rise to a range of melee DPS, but certainly not that many ranged weapon types.

Later on what you will get is probably 10 DPS fighting over STR accessories with maybe 3 DPS fighting over DEX.

[Velhart]

One issue with this system is that in the long-run, there will be more jobs requiring STR than DEX cos naturally there will be more melee DPS than ranged DPS. There are many weapon types to give rise to a range of melee DPS, but certainly not that many ranged weapon types.

Later on what you will get is probably 10 DPS fighting over STR accessories with maybe 3 DPS fighting over DEX.

Last I recall you can only have up to 8 people in a party. Its at most 4 DPS fighting over one thing if you decide to bring all melee. Doesn't matter if there are 50 STR DPS jobs, you are still in competition with the same amount of players in a party as you are currently.

He doesn't want them to change and overcomplicate things. Which btw, there is nothing
wrong with having some depth to combat. formulas CAN be too basic and boring at times.

The secondary stats don't cut it for you? People on these forums are always theory crafting the various secondary stats we have.

[RygaenYuui]

Please change the wording for INT because people who don't have high stats in this attribute are not entirely stupid.

[Nash]

Just to throw more shit on the fire, from an interview in Famitsu today (courtesy of Emiliam on reddit):

(What is the main attack stat?) Cannot confirm whether main stat will be STR or DEX. Don't want people to start stockpiling gears.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...w_with_yoship/
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201406/21055265.html

[Dhex]

Just to throw more shit on the fire, from an interview in Famitsu today (courtesy of Emiliam on reddit):

(What is the main attack stat?) Cannot confirm whether main stat will be STR or DEX. Don't want people to start stockpiling gears.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...w_with_yoship/
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201406/21055265.html

I hope it's both. Allowing for some freedom - ie. if you do all STR you get to do more damage with your melee skills, if you do all DEX you get to deal more damage with your ranged skills or do 50/50 and you're balanced damage. Ninja's mudras combinations could have their effects vary depending on your stat allotment.

Honestly - the game needs more dynamic and viable builds. It's boring as is.

[silentwindfr]

I hope it's both. Allowing for some freedom - ie. if you do all STR you get to do more damage with your melee skills, if you do all DEX you get to deal more damage with your ranged skills or do 50/50 and you're balanced damage. Ninja's mudras combinations could have their effects vary depending on your stat allotment.

Honestly - the game needs more dynamic and viable builds. It's boring as is.

sadly by doing this, they will make the ninja never be as good than any other counter part. let me explain:
- if you go full melee or full ranged you will limit your own skill choice and reduce your own fun... i can't see a better word, since you will have less choice into the cycle than any other class around
- if you try to balance, you will be less good than any class that solely go melee or ranged (monk, dragoon, bard) and people will not want class that are less good as dps than the other.

in many game where you have the talent tree people often go with the best one... that like this. freedom don't always means it's good or deeper... that sad, but true.

[Dhex]

sadly by doing this, they will make the ninja never be as good than any other counter part. let me explain:
- if you go full melee or full ranged you will limit your own skill choice and reduce your own fun... i can't see a better word, since you will have less choice into the cycle than any other class around
- if you try to balance, you will be less good than any class that solely go melee or ranged (monk, dragoon, bard) and people will not want class that are less good as dps than the other.

in many game where you have the talent tree people often go with the best one... that like this. freedom don't always means it's good or deeper... that sad, but true.

Gosh sounds just like SMN/SCH.

Full INT!? Full MND? 50/50?

If only there were a way to change stat allotment.

If only you could wear different sets of gear depending on the fight you're doing.

Gosh if only you could plan your skills, gear, and allotments out to best benefit you depending on what content you're doing.

Guess that'd be too complicated we better keep the game real shallow.

[silentwindfr]

exept here we are not talking of 30 pt of stats... you will have more of 500 pt of stats allocated by your equipement that way more!
it have a more huge impact on your class that the simple allocation point we did get so far.

if you go full dex, for your ranged attack, all the melee attack will do nothing in term of damage
if you go full str, for the melee, all the ranged will be useless.
if you go with both, (exept if they make specific gear that will kill any kind of deepth you are talking about, because we will all use the same stuff, they can't make ton of gears after all) your melee and ranged will be so so, why bring a ninja that will so so, when you can get a bard, dragoon or monk that will be better?

that the point you seems to miss, we had this in the V1, it was the monk and believe me it was a pain to get any good stuff for it and we was limitated a lot in our choice. worst, instead to compete only against monk/dragoon or bard for your equipement, you will have to compete against every physical dps... it's silly!

[silentwindfr]

like said before, if they plan to go with the DEX idea, i hope no, they will need a reeeeeaaally good reason for not allows ninja to wear the fuma armor that are STR oriented. outside this, nothing under the sun.

and i feel they are feeding the troll about the stats by the way hahahaha

[Reynhart]

Since high level gear is tied to class/job, except accessory, I don't think stat allocation will be a problem.
They'll be designed for Rogue/Ninja to be usefull regardless.