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    LoLo's Avatar
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Did he say which dps gear? Because archers/bards are dps too.
    Archers are no melee DPS, but ranged DPS. A BIG difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Did he say which dps gear? Because archers/bards are dps too.
    Quote Originally Posted by kiraan View Post
    melee DPS gear
    Not pretending kiraan is right or wrong, just underlining the info you missed

    you can see here it's going to be dext for rogue/ninja, if the traits which are here are for ROG/NIN
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 06-17-2014 at 03:23 PM.

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    Soube Miseux
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    Uhh...those aren't NIN skills, they're enemy skills...

    Enemy skills with player icons...

    o.o
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    Kinnison Cooke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Uhh...those aren't NIN skills, they're enemy skills...

    Enemy skills with player icons...

    o.o
    Why does a skill called "Level X Petrify" scare the crap out of me?
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    I think they'll be STR too, but that line from Yoshida does NOT preclude them being DEX.

    Is his statement still true if they end up DEX-based? Yes. "Disciples of War" gear, which is for monks as well as bards, has DEX, and the comment was aimed at keeping gear for levelling up. End of story.

    Edit: Also there could be a translation problem here, "melee" could include bard, if you were just going by 2 categories of either melee or magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    I think they'll be STR too, but that line from Yoshida does NOT preclude them being DEX.

    Is his statement still true if they end up DEX-based? Yes. "Disciples of War" gear, which is for monks as well as bards, has DEX, and the comment was aimed at keeping gear for levelling up. End of story.

    Edit: Also there could be a translation problem here, "melee" could include bard, if you were just going by 2 categories of either melee or magic.
    No. You're looking for Physical and Magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    No. You're looking for Physical and Magic.
    Semantics. My point stands.

    Edit due to post count:

    Yes, it stands. There's a language barrier, that can affect things. You don't know whether he includes bard under melee. The game does; the accuracy caps are the same. There's 2 caps: melee and magic. Bard fits under melee.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 06-17-2014 at 10:31 AM.

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    Your point doesn't stand. He specifically said -melee- gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Semantics. My point stands.

    Edit due to post count:

    Yes, it stands. There's a language barrier, that can affect things. You don't know whether he includes bard under melee. The game does; the accuracy caps are the same. There's 2 caps: melee and magic. Bard fits under melee.
    It's not semantics. Physical and melee are nowhere near the same thing. Melee refers to close quarters combat. The proper opposite, in this situation, is ranged. Physical literally means just that, physical. Hitting the enemy with physical attacks, ie a spear or arrows. In that case, a bard would be classified the same as a dragoon.

    The game classifies them under physical, not magical.
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    Last edited by ispano; 06-17-2014 at 10:37 AM.

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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Semantics. My point stands.

    Edit due to post count:

    Yes, it stands. There's a language barrier, that can affect things. You don't know whether he includes bard under melee. The game does; the accuracy caps are the same. There's 2 caps: melee and magic. Bard fits under melee.
    It is called Physical and Magic, not Melee and Magic.

    Physical attacks are sub divided into melee and ranged.
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