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  1. #1
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    Avatar von MartaDemireux
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    Hiraeth Petrichor
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Weißmagier Lv 90

    Please Change the Wording for STR and DEX!

    I've noticed in FFXIV that STR is worded to increase the attack power of melee attacks and DEX increases the attack power of ranged attacks. However, in practice this is not the case!

    This is evident with the following abilities:
    Shield Lob
    Tomahawk
    Piercing Talon

    These abilities are specifically stated to be ranged attacks but DEX does not increase their damage. STR does because their equipped weapons gain Attack Power through STR. Mages also have Attack Power values based on their STR which goes unused except for their auto-attacks.


    I suggest altering the tool-tips to the following:
    STR: Increases the Attack Power for Swords, Axes, Lances, Fisticuffs, Rods, Staves and Books. Increases the amount of damage you block or parry.

    DEX: Increases the Attack Power of Bows, Twinblades* and Guns*. Increases the rate in which you block or parry.

    The alteration would pose no change to actual game play but would better inform players of their attacks and what their weapons need for stats. This also opens up the use for DEX as the primary melee stat for new classes which could be added such as the new Rogue (historically this type of class has been about dexterity and not brute strength) and potentially Fencer (real-world application, they are dextrous, not about brute strength).

    (*: I'm running on the assumption that Guns will use DEX in similarity to ARC and that Twinblades will use DEX based on the recent .dat mining of traits. Traits can be found HERE and my rough translation can be found at the bottom of the post HERE)
    (12)
    Geändert von MartaDemireux (17.06.14 um 16:42 Uhr)
    * I fully give permission for any of my written ideas to be used by SE without recognition.

  2. #2
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    Avatar von kiraan
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    Kiraan Kosmos
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Astrologe Lv 60
    You have to see this as a whole and not a per ability basis.

    STR is for melee physical damage class/job
    DEX is for ranged physical damage class/job
    (14)

  3. #3
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    Avatar von Kuwagami
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Rotmagier Lv 78


    Seriously though, your solution would force them to change the stats every time they add a new type of weapon. Not worth it for 3 attacks.

    Honestly, before reading that, I was just assuming "Ok it increases my damage with melee/ranged type weapon". These 3 attacks fall under
    - sword and shield
    - axe
    - spear
    which are melee weapons => damage increased by STR. As simple as that
    (18)

  4. #4
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    Avatar von Jacost
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    Jeyrr Stenn
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    Moogle
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    Astrologe Lv 90
    Rogue and Ninja are going to be DEX based classes as well, despite being melee.
    (3)

  5. #5
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    Avatar von kiraan
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    Kiraan Kosmos
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologe Lv 60
    Zitat Zitat von Jacost Beitrag anzeigen
    Rogue and Ninja are going to be DEX based classes as well, despite being melee.
    100% wrong. Stop spreading false information. Yoshida confirmed already we should keep our melee DPS gear if we want to get a head start for Rogue and ninja
    (29)

  6. #6
    Player Avatar von Shioban
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    Bastok
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    Shio Ban
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    Twintania
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    Druide Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von kiraan Beitrag anzeigen
    100% wrong. Stop spreading false information. Yoshida confirmed already we should keep our melee DPS gear if we want to get a head start for Rogue and ninja
    I'm hoping it's not Dex, but a lot of people seem to believe it might use it.

    (I personally thought they'd save Dex for the gun based class they have in the works)
    (0)

  7. #7
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    Avatar von Marxam
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marodeur Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von kiraan Beitrag anzeigen
    100% wrong. Stop spreading false information. Yoshida confirmed already we should keep our melee DPS gear if we want to get a head start for Rogue and ninja
    Did he say which dps gear? Because archers/bards are dps too.
    (4)

  8. #8
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    Avatar von Kuwagami
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
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    Rotmagier Lv 78
    Zitat Zitat von Marxam Beitrag anzeigen
    Did he say which dps gear? Because archers/bards are dps too.
    Zitat Zitat von kiraan Beitrag anzeigen
    melee DPS gear
    Not pretending kiraan is right or wrong, just underlining the info you missed

    you can see here it's going to be dext for rogue/ninja, if the traits which are here are for ROG/NIN
    (5)
    Geändert von Kuwagami (17.06.14 um 15:23 Uhr)

  9. #9
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    Avatar von Kanti
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    Kanti Castagnier
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturg Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von Marxam Beitrag anzeigen
    Did he say which dps gear? Because archers/bards are dps too.
    Pretty sure he outright said melee dps.
    (2)

  10. #10
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    Avatar von ispano
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    Melfina Amastacia
    World
    Excalibur
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    Pikenier Lv 60
    Zitat Zitat von Kanti Beitrag anzeigen
    Pretty sure he outright said melee dps.
    Personally i'm assuming that when it gets to the point where LNC and PGL gear splits, Rogue will use PGL gear. But prior to that most stuff is for either.
    (0)

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