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  1. #61
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Did you even read Yoshi's quote? it was for levelling.
    "Massively: Any chance we can find out about what equipment Rogues/Ninjas will wear so we can prepare ahead of time?

    Naoki Yoshida, producer: First off, because the class is going to be a melee DPS-type class, that gear that you have for other melee DPS classes and jobs is probably something that you'll want to hold on to. On the other hand, weapons are all going to be new because it's going to be a special type -- the dual wield. While you can use existing gear, the weapons will be all new and players can have fun collecting them. As for the special and Primal weapons, there will be rogue and ninja versions."
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    Strange, there's no "leveling" in the quote. So actually, Kiroh read it perfectly.
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  2. #62
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post


    DEX: Increases the Attack Power of Bows, Twinblades* and Guns*. Increases the rate in which you block or parry.
    No, because Twinblades are no a ranged weapon. Why would they do this?
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Did he say which dps gear? Because archers/bards are dps too.
    Archers are no melee DPS, but ranged DPS. A BIG difference.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    It's because in more traditional RPGs, a rogue type would be based around DEX, not STR. ie they do damage by being dexterous and hitting vital points more easily. But not all were like that.
    The only time Rogue was in a Final Fantasy game is Final Fantasy XIV ARR. This is something new to the series to even have classes that then turn into jobs. So there is no set rule in play for the Rogue class. Also please remember that JRPG's are different than RPGs as well as the fact that this is a Japanese MMO (even though its international) not a RPG or American MMO.
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  5. #65
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Could of sworn SE was specific when they said melee DPS gear. I would believe Ninja wearing Maiming gear before Aiming (common sense says Striking is their gear). You can tell from various gear designs alone that Maiming is heavy armored melee DPS, Striking is light armored melee DPS, and Aiming is for ranged DPS. The stat system was built to be simple, and easy to understand. Putting Ninja in a DEX slot would go against that ideology. The system they have set up is great. Things like Maiming gear are open to more future heavy armored melee jobs like Dark Knight(assuming they are DPS) and Musketeer be put in the same aiming gear as Archer. Such a simple system and easy to fit in jobs. Even a lot of DEX heavy gear is designed to look like something a ranged attacker would wear. Imagine a Ninja in the Ballad set over the Fuma set from CT, it doesn't make sense.

    The argument of "Ohh they could just change it around". The question is...why? First off I doubt it will happen not until very far in the future at least if they believe the stat system needs to be revamped. Rogue/Ninja and other various jobs that already have been created are already designed to work with the stat system they created at the beginning. Rogue/Ninja were likely made early in development of ARR and now just seeing the light. If stats were being altered to cater to one job, I doubt Rogue/Ninja would come out by 2.4, expansion at earliest.

    In short, you are all thinking too hard. Yoshi-P said melee gear, its obvious Ninja is going to use Striking gear, how is this even a discussion? You are all scraping the bottom of the barrel to find any justification of them using DEX.
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    Last edited by Velhart; 06-20-2014 at 02:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
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    for the same reason sch artwork wasnt sch....
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    for the same reason sch artwork wasnt sch....
    In all fairness, I see how you could mistake that Scholar artwork with Dark Knight.
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    Selawyn Kludra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    That is a skill used by an Ahriman during an alexandrite map.
    The Ahriman in Haukke Manor Hard Mode also uses Lv 5 Petrify.
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  9. #69
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Monk used to be INT & STR.


    Just sayin.
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    Florence Leduc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    Monk used to be INT & STR.


    Just sayin.
    and they did change it in full STR with ARR, just saying... you are trying to overcomplicate stuff.
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