Stat Points by Job (SCH/SMN Primary Example)

[IveraIvalice]

not true.
in pvp, ppl go as MRD, and GLD, because WAR/PLD, dont have any useful skills for pvp, cause you can't aggro/tank ppl.
also archer.

I agree with that but considering that at least 90% of the game has nothing to do with pvp, it still feels like a dead system. I would have prefered they flushed out the job system to have more customization and variety. In the end I just want to have 30 points to put on my smn and scholar separately. Instead of only really putting to use 15 of them because I very much use both jobs on a regular basis

[GatorWPB]

agree with the OP. It seems like SE added a second healer, because it was needed. And rather than add a new class, they added SCH as a job to ARC.
I main SCH (i99) but am gearing up SMN as my primary alt. I am leveling WHM and BLM as well, but I just hate playing a "gimped" SMN, even if it is not a significant reduction in dps.
But I will certainly not put the points in PIE, as then I will have both jobs less than optimal. And what are we running the gear treadmill for if not to build optimal characters.

[Giantbane]

I agree with that but considering that at least 90% of the game has nothing to do with pvp, it still feels like a dead system. I would have prefered they flushed out the job system to have more customization and variety. In the end I just want to have 30 points to put on my smn and scholar separately. Instead of only really putting to use 15 of them because I very much use both jobs on a regular basis

The classes should have had more neutral stats and allowed a greater variety of skills to cross class. So you could make a GLD with mediocre magic skills if you really wanted to. The jobs would have been more focused. Jobs should not just get +10 to all stats across the board, instead the same number of stat points would be invested more heavily in their primary stats, with much lower cross class stats.

[SionDurant]

I think the stats should all be worth something, uniquely to each class. So if I pick VIT, my Protect and Stoneskin spells are more powerful on my targets. Right now stats are more or less just stack 30 of your main and forget.

All experimentation I've had with trying to be creative has resulted in weakening my character's intended functions.

Though I stand by my original desires, this is one quality of life change I feel shouldn't be too hard for SE to come by.

[Wolf_Gang]

I vote no....

The game needs some aspect of player choice. Too much is spelled out for you (such as what gear to wear). Play scholar a lot? Then it may be in your best interest to allocate some points to support that job. Prefer summoner? Likewise, best allocate your points to support that job.

I understand why some players want this, but part of the joy of building a character is making choices. There is already very little differentiation amongst players of the same job outside of what part of the end-game gear progression you're currently at.

That stupid because Summoner and Scholar are completely two different roles and use completely different equipment. I would agree if they were both healers or both DPS then they would be more in line with other MMOs that have specification points or talent trees. The jobs are hardly specific with the class having the majority of your traits and skills.

[SionDurant]

I love the posts where people seem angry, irritated by me asking if there are any plans. This community is completely toxic, it's really kinda disgusting. If I didn't love the FF brand so much, and love it in an MMO format, I'd totally not put up with it lol.

[ForteXX]

I love the posts where people seem angry, irritated by me asking if there are any plans. This community is completely toxic, it's really kinda disgusting. If I didn't love the FF brand so much, and love it in an MMO format, I'd totally not put up with it lol.

Theyre toxic about it when its been asked many times before, with the same response each time, and it gets asked again.

[Bluevann]

Theyre toxic about it when its been asked many times before, with the same response each time, and it gets asked again.

Albert Einstein once said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

[Argyle_Darkheart]

pro tip

you will never notice a difference

You're not going to notice 30 INT on a SMN?

wat

[HakuroDK]

I split my SMN/SCH stat points thusly:

INT 10
MND 10
PIE 10

Because balance. Is it perfectly specialized? No, but it ensures I don't have to buy a Hymn every time I want to change jobs. Then again, I barely touch either unless someone desperately needs a healer or a magic DPS anyway, so meh.

Though by the time Berserker comes out, I'll probably buy a Hymn and reallocate my Stat Points to 15 STR, 15 VIT instead of the 10 STR, 20 VIT I'm at now. Yay, being able to take a beating and dish one out too!