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    Geracia2's Avatar
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    Ivan Crow
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    SCH/SMN - Which skills actually stacks?

    So in titan ex yesterday another SCH was throwing down the same skills as me during the phase changes and what not. We were using Sacred Soil at the same time but i missed a few and noticed very little (none?) change in damage taken.

    So my question/s is: What stacks for the SMN/SCH?
    Sacred soils? Galvanize? Fey Covenants? Whispering dawns (i believe so)? Eye for an Eyes? the Selen glows?
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    Project Ziek
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    As far as I know, the only move that stacks is Shadow Flare. Everything else has to be rotated via communication between the 2 scholars.
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    Gamma Gigantos
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I was under the impression that Sacred Soil stacked. I don't double SCH very often, because I'll usually just switch to WHM instead, so I'll have to check next time I do.

    I know Whispering Dawn stacks, but Galvanize and Eye for and Eye does not.
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    Enk'i Faer
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Things that stack:

    Whispering Dawn, Shadowflare (minus the slow) and all DoT's (minus any secondary effects such as heavy and disease)

    Things that don't stack:

    Sacred Soil, Galvinize, Eye for an Eye, Virus, Fey Covenant/ Illumination and Fey Glow/ Light (they'll remove or refresh each other)
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    Andros Dyrstwyrn
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    When 2 sch, I often ask the other we alternate Sacred soil, as with the cooldown we can keep sacred soil always up. (30seconds recast - 15seconds duration )
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    Spark Joy
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Tl;dr: Any damage or healing overtime component will always stack, but any constant effect from a buff or debuff will never stack.

    Examples:
    Heal overtime.
    White Mage 1: Regen on Paladin. (+100 HP every 3 seconds)
    White Mage 2: Regen on Paladin. (+100 HP every 3 seconds)

    Paladin will gain both Regen's (stacking) heal overtime effect every 3 seconds. (+200 HP per 3 seconds)

    Damage overtime.
    Scholar: Shadow Flare on Training Dummy. (40 damage dealt every 3 seconds)
    Summoner: Shadow Flare on Training Dummy. (55 damage dealt every 3 seconds)

    Training Dummy will be inflicted 95 damage collectively between the two Shadow Flares every 3 seconds. The Training Dummy is constantly slowed for the duration of Shadow Flare.

    BUT!

    Only one instance of the slow from Shadow Flare is active. This means the slow does not stack.
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    Ivan Crow
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Gotcha so:
    SCH/SCH
    Exchange Sacred Soils - 30 sec recast - 15 sec dur - can be constantly up - Do not stack
    Exchange EfaE - 120 sec recast - 30 sec dur (sch trait only) - 60 sec recast if chained up
    Stacking Whispering Dawn - 60 sec recast - 21 sec dur - can stack for 200 potency HoT
    Situational Fey Covenant/Illumination and Fey Glow/Light - 120 sec Recast - 20 sec dur - Does not stack - if chained 40 sec wait till first cast can be re-casted.
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    Last edited by Geracia2; 06-18-2014 at 06:59 AM.

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    Yonko Chao
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Geracia2 View Post
    Gotcha so:
    SCH/SCH
    Exchange Sacred Soils - 30 sec recast - 15 sec dur - can be constantly up
    Exchange EfaE - 60 sec recast - 30 sec dur (sch trait only) - can be constantly up
    Stacking Whispering Dawn - 60 sec recast - 21 sec dur - can stack for 200 potency HoT
    Situational Fey Covenant/Illumination and Fey Glow/Light - 120 sec Recast - 20 sec dur - Does not stack - if chained 40 sec wait till first cast can be re-casted.
    Eye for an Eye is a 120 sec recast when traited. it is 180 normally I play both WHM and SCH and use it on both.

    Also not stated but the shields don't stack and a weaker shield won't overwrite a stronger one.
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    Sheena Te'ar
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yonko View Post
    Eye for an Eye is a 120 sec recast when traited. it is 180 normally I play both WHM and SCH and use it on both.

    Also not stated but the shields don't stack and a weaker shield won't overwrite a stronger one.
    A stronger one will though so if you want you can try your luck with a crit. in addition if you see shield pop a stoneskin. it stacks with shield
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