SMN a use for ifrit...

[ViciousDreamer]

I'm not sure this has been mentioned, but ifrit is great in T8. He doesn't have to move and can sit there killing the avatar or dread and his shield is great for all the aoe damage that goes out during the fight. His normal aoe and enkindle work well on the dreadnaught.

[Dwill]

Since I haven o personnal experience with T8, I can't say much about it but it ain't the first time I hear about this. Nevertheless, it's sad that one specific encounter design in the game (whacking at an almost immobile object) is the only use for him.

[Divine_Whisper]

I generally use garuda for the most part, but i try to save raging strikes and enkindle for a high priority target (whatever needs to die the fastest), also i find that generally speaking garuda's enkindle tends to have a wider range compared to ifrit's enkindle. Thus making garuda's enkindle far more valuable as you can hit more enemies and multiplying the damage. On the other hand with with a mnk and war in the party ifrit will win off of the buffs, on top of the fact that since ifrit has a basic attack it means that he has a more likely chance to crit and give the spell speed buff to increase your ruin spam (yes i know its not much but still). As far as rotation goes im still tweaking it a bit, but it seems promising will post later when i have confirmed it

[Dwill]

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The reason Garuda's Enkindle seems to hit more target is that her's an AoE centered around the target and Ifrit's a cone. So if Ifrit isn't properly place, he more than likely will hit less target than Garuda in an AoE situation.

[givemeraptors]

Ifrit does 6-7 Auto attacks at 120 potency. at a total of 720(rounded to 6) with in the 20second RS duration.

Auto-attacks or Burning Strike? Ifrit does both...
More broadly, no one else seems to be mentioning that Ifrit has an auto-attack that does damage in addition to Burning Strike either.

[Nanaho]

Actually in T2, it'd be more preferrable to use Titan Egi because its the more durable of the 2, and won't drop like a fly 10 seconds into the fight.

With the Recent Echo buff on Pet's this isnt an issue anymore, my SMN was only i73 last time i tried T2, and it didnt have any issues surviving with its HP, which i think ifrit had like 4700ish?

[Dwill]

Auto-attacks or Burning Strike? Ifrit does both...
More broadly, no one else seems to be mentioning that Ifrit has an auto-attack that does damage in addition to Burning Strike either.

Everyobdy knows, it's still math'ed out to be inferior.

[Ardan]

Ifrit just can't pull the weight that Garuda can. In order for Ifrit to be viable it has to be able to match the damage that Garuda and Contagion'd DoTs provides. Changes to his current abilities would be necessary as well.

[Darske]

I'd like to weigh in as someone who just recently hit 50 on SMN, and therefore I'm not quite into the highest end content with it yet. Ifrit seems the best choice for me when going up against normal fights (as in, not bosses.) due to a few things. First of all, every thirty seconds I believe, Flaming Crush does AOE damage around Ifrit. His stun really stands out, because that results in less damage that the tank takes, meaning a little better survivability when the tank makes big pulls. And, if enemies are AOE heavy, he counterattacks it a bit.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that Ifrit feels like what you should use before bosses, Garuda feels better during a boss, and Titan is a good swiftcast summon if the tank goes down because they didn't dodge or something. There are also certain situations, like on Demon Wall, where you want your Egi to close back in on a boss instead of hanging back in the void pitch. (Not that Demon Wall is hard anymore...)

[Starkbeaumont]

Ifrit just can't pull the weight that Garuda can. In order for Ifrit to be viable it has to be able to match the damage that Garuda and Contagion'd DoTs provides. Changes to his current abilities would be necessary as well.

It actually does more dmg than Garuda+Contagion [even more with drg and/or mnk in pt], but it also takes a lot more damage, meaning you need to heal it (more often). Also the SMN itself needs to reapply dots more often, so higher mp consumption.

Bolded part is the biggest issue imo.