SMN a use for ifrit...

[Sen_Terrechant]

If you Contagion + Bane, after 10 seconds, you can Bane off of the farthest target to have DoTs rolling on 5-7 targets depending on how they are clogged up. Then you can repeat just after.

Continuing on next post.

Really in 10 seconds in most AoE situations, most things are already half dead. Im not saying Ifrit is the be all end all of AoE, we will never be a BLM but its better then Garuda. Im talking about very niche situations, where most of the time they arent going to bring a SMN at all anyways.

I just want them to get rid of Radiant Shield. Almost no use.

[Dwill]

Really in 10 seconds in most AoE situations, most things are already half dead. Im not saying Ifrit is the be all end all of AoE, we will never be a BLM but its better then Garuda. Im talking about very niche situations, where most of the time they arent going to bring a SMN at all anyways.

I just want them to get rid of Radiant Shield. Almost no use.

I've tried Ifrit in AoE situations and have always had much better results using Garuda. 15 Potency does not make it better once every 30 seconds.

Agreed on Radiant Shield.

[Ardan]

Radiant Shield wouldn't suck so hard if you could use it on the main tank.

[Sen_Terrechant]

Radiant Shield wouldn't suck so hard if you could use it on the main tank.

or any target other then itself.

[Kikosho]

Any aoe Garuda wins due to contagion+bane.



A bit poorly worded but that's the figure I heard too. It's not a hidden gcd timer though, it's more like his gcd doesn't start up again till he's done his animation. And yeah it's not the biggest difference, idk about it being under 1% though, adding a half second to a 2.5 second base gcd should be a bit more than that. In any case he doesn't have anything going for him to make any of these detriments worth it.

This was fixed a while ago. Ifrit's Burning Strike now goes off as soon as the skill is ready, same as Garuda's Wind Blade.

As far as individual pet dps goes, Ifrit now does 12+~ dps more than Garuda (this factors in situations where both equally have and don't have their respective damage enhancing debuffs (Foe/Blunt/Slashing) on the enemy). Naturally, the dps difference will fluctuate on a variety of factors such as the case with debuffs and their upkeep (Blunt/Slashing are usually up a majority of the time, Foe isn't) and whether Ifrit needs to chase anything down.

[Sen_Terrechant]

Oh! Lets not forget people that Ifrit is generally better in PvP!

Yay finally, a decent use >_>

[BinaryJack]

I've found little use for Ifrit other than farming matts, Copperbell HM and CT.
At bosses, you need those extra few precious second that Contagion gives you to maximize your DOTs.

[Itseotle]

E.G: Last boss of Brayfllox HM

DoTs continue to tick after the boss cannot be targeted. The same applies to Ifrit/Titan/Garuda/Leviathan Jumps and Twintania Divebombs.

[kujowaltz]

It's pretty much uncontested that Garuda will output more over a dungeon run compared to Ifrit. That wasn't the OP. My point was that, currently, the community views summons as unchanging, 1-and-done variables where you summon Garuda and leave her up for 40 min - even though there are brief periods during dungeons that arise with reasonable frequency where Ifrit would excel slightly more than Garuda. I'm tired of discussions on who outputs more dps over 40 min. Its like fitting a sin function with a line of 90% it's amplitude and calling it a day....ignoring the little resulting bumps where Ifrit could come out and squeeze some extra juice from the lemon

[Dwill]

DoTs continue to tick after the boss cannot be targeted. The same applies to Ifrit/Titan/Garuda/Leviathan Jumps and Twintania Divebombs.

They continue to tick yet inflict no damage. Quite a few times I've seen him with a full row of DoTs go in the last phase with the big bombs, havinga sliver of health and not dying. lThe only boss I've seen being untargetable with DoTs still doing damage was Isgebind from Stone Vigil.