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    SeleneVenizelos's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Tete Rouge
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    Louisoix
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Who has even mentioned Master's Mend 2?
    It's not part of my rotation but it's very relevant, as melding the Craftsmanship means I don't have to use it. Since Waste Not II is a very inefficient use of CP by comparison you would hope any 'decent' crafter was using MM2...

    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    An extra 3 CP is far more useful than a few extra over-melded Craftsmanship points, to any decent 3 star crafter. (Why would anyone who has all the tools not be making 3 star?)
    This is a very debatable point. How many three star synths do people actually make? I personally make far more two star synths (on Culinarian in particular) because they're a more reliable source of income. With my melds, I have no problem HQing pretty much every three star synth when I do make them. Just last night I went 40/40 HQ on Sachtertorte without your proposed melds. Being able to finish two star synths in two steps is more beneficial for me than the extra Control and it probably is for a lot of other people; again, especially on Culinarian. It is not affecting my three star HQ rate, because I am a 'decent' crafter, to use your phrase.

    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    I may be missing something here, but I don't understand how you can have 397 Craftsmanship with only +5 added to offhand. Surely that leaves you with 396 with everything else capped?
    This however I did look into as I was confused by this. It seems the first few crafters I melded I put a IV materia on and the latter half of my crafters I put a III on when I realised the IV was overkill. Small oversight on my part there. I must have written down the required stats for this on one of the earlier crafts. It is indeed 396 and I will change the OP to reflect that. The one point is not a big deal but price wise the materia level is.

    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Your missing mine, many people with these tools, wont have 397 Craftsmanship melded, as anything over 391 is a waste for 3 star crafting.
    There is a difference between missing a point and disagreeing with. I got your point. I disagreed with it and gave a very good explanation in my reply and my original post as to why I chose to overmeld Craftsmanship instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    You even have Steady Hands 2 in the macro for Advanced Touch and Byregot's, so that's 3 CP wasted right there.
    Because I don't set Steady Hand to save the hassle of having to swap actions around, as my three star synths use other abilities that keep me at 10/10.

    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    I also highly doubt it's truly 100% if done as instructed, what happens if there is a Poor condition for the Advanced Touch and first Basic Touch?
    Then you're mistaken. The HQ rate on this rotation if you watch for the condition on Byregot's is 100%. Even with Poor on the Advanced Touch it reaches 100%. You should really give somebody's rotation a solid, thorough workthrough before you do your best to declare it's no good or false.

    Quote Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen View Post
    Selene, do I really need all that materia melded onto my offhand tool to do three-star HQ crafting and use your macro? I read somewhere that all that was really needed on the offhand was a Control IV and two Craftsmanship III...
    The off hand on every one of my crafters is either Control IV and Craftsmanship III or with a Craftsmanship IV, the reasons for this explained above. My HQ rate on 3 stars is very high indeed without all the added Control and CP. The additional craftsmanship allows you to blast out two star synths in under thirty seconds if you memorise the rotation, about 45 if you let a macro do it for you.

    For my personal crafting interests, a very high HQ rate on 3 star and the ability to mass produce tonnes of two stars out weighs the slightly more comfortable three star synthing.

    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    I've just tested this macro, by simulating a poor condition on the Advanced Touch and it's not 100%.

    To test I removed the first Great Strides from the rotation, as this should (I believe) have the same results as if there were a Poor condition. As Poor condition halves quality and Great Strides doubles it. I.e. GS + AT + Poor = AT.
    I would suggest experimenting some more with this because if I get Poor on the Advanced Touch, with less Control than you, it is still reaching 100% quality 100% of the time.
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    Last edited by SeleneVenizelos; 06-25-2014 at 11:26 PM.