Summoner - Acc vs Det/Crit

[Zamii]

So, i got to thinking the other day, since garuda only does ~25% of my dps on most fights, it would probably be a dps increase if i went a point or two below garudas accuracy cap in order to lose a tiny portion of her dps and increase my own.

with that in mind, how far below her accuracy cap could we go before we start loosing dps if we were to swap it out for either crit or det.

i'de also like to collect some miss %'s for various accuracies in turn 8 and turn 9 for garuda. at the moment, i have accuracy for 489 (2 below cap) for turn 9 that was done over ~2000 hits, and 487 (4 below cap) over ~3000 hits.


Accuracy - hit %
1 below cap - ?????
2 below cap - 99.65% hit rate
3 below cap - ?????
4 below cap - 99.22% hit rate
5 below cap - ?????


Current findings:
using Puro Strider's blm calculator (I know, not summoner but its still magic damage) of 13.8 crit = 1% crit rate, for the currently measured hit rates, dropping below accuracy cap from exactly on the cap and replacing with crit rate is a very minor dps loss, however, for every point above the cap you can go 2 points below the cap in order to receive a dps increase overall.
This may lead to altering BiS lists that are over acc cap to under cap for minor dps increases, but anything that sits directly on the acc cap seems to be the best bet for the time being.

For those that make BiS lists based upon stat weightings:
each point of accuracy below cap should have a value of -0.255

[Darske]

This is something I've been curious about for a while. Does a critical affect DoTs?

Like, if I get a criticial on Bio, will its ticks deal more damage?

[NintenPyjak64]

I can report that my Egi at 481 accuracy in T8 had us both at about 99.70 accuracy

Also yes DoTs can crit. That's one reason why crit's a powerful stat

[Zamii]

This is something I've been curious about for a while. Does a critical affect DoTs?

Like, if I get a criticial on Bio, will its ticks deal more damage?

each tick of a dot has a chance to crit, so while it is possible to have all ticks crit, its more likely that the dots will crit once or twice.

I can report that my Egi at 481 accuracy in T8 had us both at about 99.70 accuracy

any chance you could look at just the hit/miss % on wind blade only so it doesn't skew the results?
also, please let me know how many hits this is based on, anything less than 500 is probably going to be to low to get accurate readings.

[NintenPyjak64]

I don't have those records anymore sadly. When I do T8 tonight or tomorrow night I'll get back to you with actual results

[Madoka]

I don't think you can even drop to something like 488 or 489 with 110 options and actually gain something important. Only the HA earrings, evenstar bracelet and evenstar body have det/crit itemization. So any piece you remove to lower accuracy will just be adding spell speed or also swapping from crit/det to the other.

The only accuracy piece I could imagine removing is the HA ring since it's 19 acc and 13SS, but there's no other 110 to wear anyway

[Zamii]

I don't think you can even drop to something like 488 or 489 with 110 options and actually gain something important. Only the HA earrings, evenstar bracelet and evenstar body have det/crit itemization. So any piece you remove to lower accuracy will just be adding spell speed or also swapping from crit/det to the other.

The only accuracy piece I could imagine removing is the HA ring since it's 19 acc and 13SS, but there's no other 110 to wear anyway

i realized that after i started doing all of this, but its also relevant for later patchs of gear sets, so i'll keep working on it regardless

[NintenPyjak64]

97% for Wind blades at 483 accuracy (I got the Soldiery legs inbetween posts)

[Zamii]

97% for Wind blades at 483 accuracy (I got the Soldiery legs inbetween posts)

97.00%?
sorry i really need to get more specific for this since the miss % doesn't change a whole lot per point

[Dwill]

I don't think you can even drop to something like 488 or 489 with 110 options and actually gain something important. Only the HA earrings, evenstar bracelet and evenstar body have det/crit itemization. So any piece you remove to lower accuracy will just be adding spell speed or also swapping from crit/det to the other.

The only accuracy piece I could imagine removing is the HA ring since it's 19 acc and 13SS, but there's no other 110 to wear anyway

Exactly. With the current stats weights that are approximated and BiS list(s) built around them (with acc varying between 496-503), none of them will ever go below the acc cap unless you specifically want to and it's not going to be by 1-2 either. So while extra acc is pretty useless for us, it's not really something we can do much about at the moment.