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    Player
    Altimis's Avatar
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    Altimis Farron
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    Aegis
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    Its the most strongest melee attack skill melee ever have and you call it worthless?

    Did you realize if you have Heavy Thrust buffs, your Chaos Thrust potency will raise up to 575 potency total?

    You just make Dragoon crystal crying, please drop it and let someone else don't have it get it ;p
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    Last edited by Altimis; 06-16-2014 at 08:53 AM.

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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    Its the most strongest melee attack skill melee ever have and you call it worthless?
    I'd wager CT is the strongest single-target attack period (at the same weapon damage, main attribute, etc...yay casters having more WD per ilv than physicals...). 200 instant potency and a 300 potency DoT...don't think even Bio 2 is as strong potency-wise (with Contagion, yeah, but on its own, no, and you can only Contagion once every other Bio 2...)

    So...yeah OP, you do deserve to be criticized. Learn your class, really.
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    Shinhye Heartstrings
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    Archer Lv 50
    But it is just Brayflox....why did he/she so serious -_____-"
    And I am so impressed that someone noticing OP were not performing one particular combo.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tOnni3 View Post
    But it is just Brayflox....why did he/she so serious -_____-"
    And I am so impressed that someone noticing OP were not performing one particular combo.
    All it takes is one other person to know what a DRG can dish out to notice it and bring it up. It's usually either the tank or the DPS, simply because both are looking at the enemy's debuffs along with their health. Likewise a healer can easily call out anybody not buffing themselves because it's rather obvious when you're watching the health bars. I just wish this happened more often, I see far too many players at endgame who don't know how to play their classes effectively, and a little knowledge can really help a player improve, like what it has done for the TC.
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    Donnatella Mewhattodo
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    All it takes is one other person to know what a DRG can dish out to notice it and bring it up. It's usually either the tank or the DPS, simply because both are looking at the enemy's debuffs along with their health. Likewise a healer can easily call out anybody not buffing themselves because it's rather obvious when you're watching the health bars. --snip--
    Agree. I did my first Garuda EX run with two randoms, one being another Dragoon. After the 3rd or 4th wipe, I noticed that he never used any of that combo series at all. Didn't pay close enough attention to if he ever even used heavy thrust as I was trying to actually survive after 45 minutes of trying to beat this, but it was blatant that none of this DOTs nor debuffs were ever applied consistently (if at all).
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    Last edited by Rusubandenwa; 06-17-2014 at 04:55 AM.

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    Uninstall's Avatar
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    Yukairi Ran
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    People tend to look when things just aren't dying.
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    Amaranth Rainbow
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Sometimes you are just going to miss on a combo due to tank turning mobs or another dps getting hate, I've had it happen to me a lot but that don't mean I give up the best combo/bonus the drg has to offer. Drg are really amazing and can hold their own in brayflox speedruns when played right.
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Parcher is correct in stating that you need to "predict" what is going to happen at times. Our job on there is an interesting one in that we have only two positionals we "need" to worry about. The box on some mobs is huge so not an issue, on others it's very small so takes more concentration on getting in there.

    Don't get mad, just get it. If it takes you repeating or refreshing the skills to ensure they are all there then do it. It is better to get them in than to just skip them cause they missed.

    I usually hit HT then head to back of mob and am already pushing ID, from there I go where ever till its time to refresh. The more you do the duties the more familiar with the skill timers on the mobs are. Hence you will be able to predict what is coming and when, and adjust accordingly to tank movement.

    Enjoy your new DRG! ^.^

    Syn
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    Illa's Avatar
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    Josh Magni
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Hmmm... Why don't you try getting more accuracy? If the combo is not lighting up and you are following the sequence correctly, then it sounds like you may just be missing your Disembowels. Chaos Thrust requires no positioning, however, Impulse Drive and Disembowel require you to be positioned in the rear to not only gain the potency bonuses, but also the bonus effects... Chaos Thrust and Phlebotomize are great for allowing a DRG to maintain or sustain the DPS it dishes out. Without them, you would just be Burst DPS with no sustenance and your dps would be completely horrible.
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Impulse drive is the only skill needed to be placed from behind the target. You can land Disembowl and CT from any position.

    I have a question though, re-reading the OP you stated that you were in Bray HM. TBH, unless the group is terribly undergeared, you shouldn't really be concerned with the combo. If you are pulling less than three mobs I suppose you use it. Three mobs you should be placing your dots on, while the other class, if its a BRD or BLM AoE's. Then once they are on you AoE. Other than that you should be using your HT > RoT combo with CD's.

    I know DF isn't the place for "SR" but most times when I enter DF, SR type pulls are what usually happen. Bosses of course get the correct rotation and what not.

    Syn
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