Chaos Thrust is Worthless!

[NintenPyjak64]

I am now finding myself getting mad when I am in the middle of attempting the combo, the enemy gets turned around (usually when the tank runs away from an aoe)

You aren't playing Monk. As long as you start the combo (Impulse Drive) from behind, you can finish the others from whatever position, although yes it is annoying when I need to do HT or ID and the boss.

Also, just chill and relax. If people start to make you angry, take a deep breath and assess the situation. Tanks are there to soak damage yes, but they shouldn't be standing in AoEs just so the DPS can get a little extra DPS as it'll put more stress on the healer

But it is just Brayflox....why did he/she so serious -_____-"
And I am so impressed that someone noticing OP were not performing one particular combo.

It's a little more obvious when core abilities are plastered on the debuff bar (in this case Disembowel and Chaos Thrust debuffs).

[LionKing]

I do appreciate the feedback everyone is giving me on this but now after going through a couple of runs through the high level dungeons and having figured out how to use it effectively, I am now finding myself getting mad when I am in the middle of attempting the combo, the enemy gets turned around (usually when the tank runs away from an aoe) and I'm like "damn it, hold still!" I don't know if it is the anger from getting insulted has flipped a switch on me and it has turning me into what I didn't want to be when I play a video game, because it is just a game. I really hope that it isn't.

Before I can give out an correct advice, may I ask how did the Tank pull? Did he aggro everything and doing a SR? Did be circle tanking?If this was what the tank was doing, you can either let him know that you are melee and that mass pull would put you in danger because of AOE and causing the DpS loss because you could not perform the correct combos or you just do AoE skill by their owns.If they complain about your DPS and after a proper explanation, they still are anger with your dps, it just shows that they are unreasonable people and just hold it in and pray for the run to be finished as fast as it could. If they vote kick you, you can always report them for being abusing the votekick system as it is clearly not your fault the run runs slower than normal.

If the tank was circle tanking, you can tell him that it is not the correct way of tanking and if he does not listen, see the above advices

[PArcher]

I am now finding myself getting mad when I am in the middle of attempting the combo, the enemy gets turned around (usually when the tank runs away from an aoe) and I'm like "damn it, hold still!" I don't know if it is the anger from getting insulted has flipped a switch on me and it has turning me into what I didn't want to be when I play a video game, because it is just a game.

First, there is only one positional in the combo; Impulse Drive, from the rear. Disembowel and Chaos Thrust can be used anywhere. So if you're getting "angry" after ID is down...its on you. Second, you need to learn to predict what is going to happen when AoEs come out (since you specifically mentioned that). No, a tank is NOT going to keep mobs still as they dodge, so getting angry and yelling at them will likely get you kicked; it is on you to predict what is happening and moving to compensate. THAT is one of the things that makes a great DRG (or MNK) great.

To me, it sounds like you do not know the job as well as you think you do/did and did not like being told you are wrong (which you are/were). DRG and MNK are definitely two of the hardest jobs to play properly and require a lot out of their player. You need to understand your role and job, and be able to execute everything properly (including while dodging and as the tank moves to dodge or position).

[Amaranth]

Sometimes you are just going to miss on a combo due to tank turning mobs or another dps getting hate, I've had it happen to me a lot but that don't mean I give up the best combo/bonus the drg has to offer. Drg are really amazing and can hold their own in brayflox speedruns when played right.

[RyuDragnier]

But it is just Brayflox....why did he/she so serious -_____-"
And I am so impressed that someone noticing OP were not performing one particular combo.

All it takes is one other person to know what a DRG can dish out to notice it and bring it up. It's usually either the tank or the DPS, simply because both are looking at the enemy's debuffs along with their health. Likewise a healer can easily call out anybody not buffing themselves because it's rather obvious when you're watching the health bars. I just wish this happened more often, I see far too many players at endgame who don't know how to play their classes effectively, and a little knowledge can really help a player improve, like what it has done for the TC.

[Synestr]

Parcher is correct in stating that you need to "predict" what is going to happen at times. Our job on there is an interesting one in that we have only two positionals we "need" to worry about. The box on some mobs is huge so not an issue, on others it's very small so takes more concentration on getting in there.

Don't get mad, just get it. If it takes you repeating or refreshing the skills to ensure they are all there then do it. It is better to get them in than to just skip them cause they missed.

I usually hit HT then head to back of mob and am already pushing ID, from there I go where ever till its time to refresh. The more you do the duties the more familiar with the skill timers on the mobs are. Hence you will be able to predict what is coming and when, and adjust accordingly to tank movement.

Enjoy your new DRG! ^.^

Syn

[Illa]

Hmmm... Why don't you try getting more accuracy? If the combo is not lighting up and you are following the sequence correctly, then it sounds like you may just be missing your Disembowels. Chaos Thrust requires no positioning, however, Impulse Drive and Disembowel require you to be positioned in the rear to not only gain the potency bonuses, but also the bonus effects... Chaos Thrust and Phlebotomize are great for allowing a DRG to maintain or sustain the DPS it dishes out. Without them, you would just be Burst DPS with no sustenance and your dps would be completely horrible.

[Synestr]

Impulse drive is the only skill needed to be placed from behind the target. You can land Disembowl and CT from any position.

I have a question though, re-reading the OP you stated that you were in Bray HM. TBH, unless the group is terribly undergeared, you shouldn't really be concerned with the combo. If you are pulling less than three mobs I suppose you use it. Three mobs you should be placing your dots on, while the other class, if its a BRD or BLM AoE's. Then once they are on you AoE. Other than that you should be using your HT > RoT combo with CD's.

I know DF isn't the place for "SR" but most times when I enter DF, SR type pulls are what usually happen. Bosses of course get the correct rotation and what not.

Syn

[ZanderMist]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...otation-Reborn

I'm surprised noone has linked it yet. Please memorize this.

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[Synestr]

^ this 100% Learn it, live it, love it.

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