Chaos Thrust is Worthless!

[Novaura]

I have recently gone through 2 runs via Duty Roulette of Brayflox's Longstop (Hard) and the players that I have been going with have criticized me, insulted me (and eventually voted me out) for refusing to use the LV 50 Dragoon ability, Chaos Thrust. I have tried to use it before and found it to be an attack that is much weaker than most of my other attacks and in its description, it is said to be part of a combo attack with Impulse Drive and Disembowel. The reality is that the indicator that is supposed to appear when you are able to use an attack as part of a combo never appears and as a result the Chaos Thrust only hits for its normal attack strength.

What is the point of making the Chaos Thrust a LV 50 attack for the Dragoon if it is completely ineffective and why do I have to take vulgar criticism for not using a worthless attack?

[Sleigh]

Hit from the rear with Impulse Drive to initiate the combo. The Chaos Thrust combo is DRG's most useful combo, for its debuff from Disembowel, and the major damage the entire combo does if Chaos Thrust's DoT is able to live out long enough.

Truth be told it was entirely appropriate for you to be criticized. If I would see a DRG who didn't use it I'd note it as well.

[Viridiana]

You're not using a 500 potency attack that is, as far as I can tell, second only to Barrage in potency (not counting AOE attacks). The fact that I'm having to compare it to a 90 second CD just to get similar potency should tell you something.

[LionKing]

You are not using your class properly, hence they will think you are not pulling your weight and that you are getting carried for under performance. And I do hate people being stubborn when they are wrong as if they know what they are doing when people give out tips, in a nce way, to help the wrong doers perform better. Part of the cause that leading to the insult is your fault for being stubborn and you refuse to re-question your knowledge. The FT-DE-CT is a combo can only be performed when FT successfully hit from BEHIND, not from any where else, hence you don't see the indicator, leading to CT not having its optimal DPS.

Maybe, you could less stubborn and learn to re-access your knowledge/yourself when people help you. And also learn to handle criticize as well which in turn, will help you a lot in real life. Life is full of critizm.

[Novaura]

I do appreciate the feedback everyone is giving me on this but now after going through a couple of runs through the high level dungeons and having figured out how to use it effectively, I am now finding myself getting mad when I am in the middle of attempting the combo, the enemy gets turned around (usually when the tank runs away from an aoe) and I'm like "damn it, hold still!" I don't know if it is the anger from getting insulted has flipped a switch on me and it has turning me into what I didn't want to be when I play a video game, because it is just a game. I really hope that it isn't.

[NintenPyjak64]

I am now finding myself getting mad when I am in the middle of attempting the combo, the enemy gets turned around (usually when the tank runs away from an aoe)

You aren't playing Monk. As long as you start the combo (Impulse Drive) from behind, you can finish the others from whatever position, although yes it is annoying when I need to do HT or ID and the boss.

Also, just chill and relax. If people start to make you angry, take a deep breath and assess the situation. Tanks are there to soak damage yes, but they shouldn't be standing in AoEs just so the DPS can get a little extra DPS as it'll put more stress on the healer

But it is just Brayflox....why did he/she so serious -_____-"
And I am so impressed that someone noticing OP were not performing one particular combo.

It's a little more obvious when core abilities are plastered on the debuff bar (in this case Disembowel and Chaos Thrust debuffs).

[LionKing]

I do appreciate the feedback everyone is giving me on this but now after going through a couple of runs through the high level dungeons and having figured out how to use it effectively, I am now finding myself getting mad when I am in the middle of attempting the combo, the enemy gets turned around (usually when the tank runs away from an aoe) and I'm like "damn it, hold still!" I don't know if it is the anger from getting insulted has flipped a switch on me and it has turning me into what I didn't want to be when I play a video game, because it is just a game. I really hope that it isn't.

Before I can give out an correct advice, may I ask how did the Tank pull? Did he aggro everything and doing a SR? Did be circle tanking?If this was what the tank was doing, you can either let him know that you are melee and that mass pull would put you in danger because of AOE and causing the DpS loss because you could not perform the correct combos or you just do AoE skill by their owns.If they complain about your DPS and after a proper explanation, they still are anger with your dps, it just shows that they are unreasonable people and just hold it in and pray for the run to be finished as fast as it could. If they vote kick you, you can always report them for being abusing the votekick system as it is clearly not your fault the run runs slower than normal.

If the tank was circle tanking, you can tell him that it is not the correct way of tanking and if he does not listen, see the above advices

[PArcher]

I am now finding myself getting mad when I am in the middle of attempting the combo, the enemy gets turned around (usually when the tank runs away from an aoe) and I'm like "damn it, hold still!" I don't know if it is the anger from getting insulted has flipped a switch on me and it has turning me into what I didn't want to be when I play a video game, because it is just a game.

First, there is only one positional in the combo; Impulse Drive, from the rear. Disembowel and Chaos Thrust can be used anywhere. So if you're getting "angry" after ID is down...its on you. Second, you need to learn to predict what is going to happen when AoEs come out (since you specifically mentioned that). No, a tank is NOT going to keep mobs still as they dodge, so getting angry and yelling at them will likely get you kicked; it is on you to predict what is happening and moving to compensate. THAT is one of the things that makes a great DRG (or MNK) great.

To me, it sounds like you do not know the job as well as you think you do/did and did not like being told you are wrong (which you are/were). DRG and MNK are definitely two of the hardest jobs to play properly and require a lot out of their player. You need to understand your role and job, and be able to execute everything properly (including while dodging and as the tank moves to dodge or position).

[Sygmaelle]

I do appreciate the feedback everyone is giving me on this but now after going through a couple of runs through the high level dungeons and having figured out how to use it effectively, I am now finding myself getting mad when I am in the middle of attempting the combo, the enemy gets turned around (usually when the tank runs away from an aoe) and I'm like "damn it, hold still!" I don't know if it is the anger from getting insulted has flipped a switch on me and it has turning me into what I didn't want to be when I play a video game, because it is just a game. I really hope that it isn't.

So why are you playin a melee then ?

Thats how you want to do a fight as a melee : look where your tank is goin and dont use your next attack straight off the bat when its available / when you think you can do it. Just look at your tank and follow him so you re in the good positionning no matter what can happen. Take some practice but you ll get there

[Cynfael]

I can only guess that you aren't using the entire chain. Just ID or just Disembowel won't trigger Chaos Thrust's combo bonus. It must be ID from behind, then Dis, then CT. Note that the positioning on steps 2 and 3 doesn't matter as long as ID hits from the rear.

So yes, you should be using CT except when the target won't live long enough to make the combo pay off.