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    Ground targeting circle unavailable until global cooldown ready.

    Could you change ground targeting so that we are able to start targeting ground ability whilst global cooldown is ticking?
    As in, whilst global cooldown is still ticking, I can move around my Shadow Flare target marker and start casting the spell when global cooldown timer reaches zero.

    Currently you have to wait for global cooldown to finish ticking, start targeting with the marker and then start casting spell.
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    I don't agree. It could lead to situations where you think a skill is available while actually it's not, then you mash buttons trying to get it to work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raestloz View Post
    I don't agree. It could lead to situations where you think a skill is available while actually it's not, then you mash buttons trying to get it to work
    They can always have the ground target marker remain purple until the GCD comes up, then it can change to orange signifying it's ready to use. No need for mashing and your issue is completely negated.
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    Leih Desahdi
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    The global cooldown is so short that I am bewildered by the fact people think this is necessary.
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Motoko Kusanagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinmayhem View Post
    The global cooldown is so short that I am bewildered by the fact people think this is necessary.
    that is funny. most games have a 1second GCD. this game actually has a rather fast pace of combat for such a long base-GCD of 2.5seconds. there are situations where only pure luck can get you through. i have been in spots where the tank gets hit by a critical, and even if i am pre-casting, i don't have enough time to cast another heal even DIRECTLY after the first before the tank gets a critical hit again. which ends up killing the tank. and there literally being NOTHING i could have done about it... because of the LONG Global Cool Down.


    in any case... to the OP here. this is actually already possible. i do it all the time with Freeze on BLM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinmayhem View Post
    The global cooldown is so short that I am bewildered by the fact people think this is necessary.
    There's more to this game than treasure map hunting, aka the world of min-maxing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    [...]in any case... to the OP here. this is actually already possible. i do it all the time with Freeze on BLM.
    I guess your Scathe -> Freeze is different from my Scathe -> Freeze then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    They can always have the ground target marker remain purple until the GCD comes up, then it can change to orange signifying it's ready to use. No need for mashing and your issue is completely negated.
    The purple marker is for "nope, you can't cast there". If your goal is to allow people to strategically place their cursor in advance, it ain't gonna help.

    Perhaps if they add another color, but i really don't see how such a confusing system would benefit us, it makes you lie in wait and do nothing instead of finding other things to do (maybe reposition, or fire off one off GCD skills)
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    +1
    i hate it when after hitting gtaoe button the marker doesn't show up right away
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raestloz View Post
    The purple marker is for "nope, you can't cast there". If your goal is to allow people to strategically place their cursor in advance, it ain't gonna help.

    Perhaps if they add another color, but i really don't see how such a confusing system would benefit us, it makes you lie in wait and do nothing instead of finding other things to do (maybe reposition, or fire off one off GCD skills)
    Then taking what you said, change the color to Red/Black/Magenta whatever for when Shadowflare/Freeze/Flaming Arrow are unavailable to be casted due to GCD timer. You haven't run into situations that would benefit from this which is obvious since you just said you can't see a situation that benefits from this change but there are plenty of optimizations that can be done if this change was possible. I don't agree with your point of this change "making you lie in wait and do nothing" since we'd obviously adjust our play to accomodate.

    As an example, when a SMN uses Ruin II or Bio, the GCD is triggered and they then spend the next 2.5~ secs unable to do anything with a GCD skill. Under the current system, we can't even see the Shadowflare ground target until the GCD comes back up. With the change the OP wants, I would be able to position exactly where I want my Shadowflare ahead of time before the GCD comes up allowing me to fire it off that much sooner and thus wasting less time positioning the spell.
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