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[PrimeEvilPanda]

And this as well ^

Any time you hear "why are you using..." are you SERIOUSLY surprised people will be on the defensive?

"Why are you parking there?"
"Why do you look like that?"
"Why did you mark those?"

See how that sounds? I don't mean to be the Nanny here - please, a lot of us have thick skins. But any time you do "why are you" - you're just asking for it :P

[ispano]

Any time you hear "why are you using..." are you SERIOUSLY surprised people will be on the defensive?

"Why are you parking there?"
"Why do you look like that?"
"Why did you mark those?"

See how that sounds? I don't mean to be the Nanny here - please, a lot of us have thick skins. But any time you do "why are you" - you're just asking for it :P

It sounds like they're asking a question. If you feel there's more to it than that when reading text, then you have issues.

[Pibz]

This thread...
People defending the dude who was doing something he shouldn't, used bad arguments as in foresight nulifies BfB dmg taken increase which is just...and then proceeds to ironically say "you are not very bright are you?" and insult people for showing him how he was wrong..
And then some dudes come here "OH, but you are wrong we did T9 with marauder", please...

snip what a ****-storm I created from one of my threads. snip
Then it became a good strategy to use Titan to tank on Thornmarch Extreme
snip

ROFL poor you, cause it's totally the same using titan on mog EX as using it in a dungeon right? I'm just speechless at someone actually thinking it's a good idea to use titan to "help the tank" in a dungeon by making stuff die slower in exchange for taking 1 silly add off of him...

[Alexia89]

Then it became a good strategy to use Titan to tank on Thornmarch Extreme, and yet clearly no one was like "hey remember that guy that was using a pet to tank to help out a tank in a dungeon and how he was just playing his job incorrectly instead of being seen as using something outside the norm and complacency of end-game routines? Yeah me either, let's mock him now then say glory unto Haruhi a month from now when we use a SMN to tank something for us in an encounter with Titan."

This community sometimes I swear.

I remember your post about you using Titan-egi. You claimed that you had it out when you zoned in to the dungeon, then left it out "because you didn't trust the tank to hold aggro". Without any evidence whatsoever to say they wouldn't (you just made this decision before anything had even been pulled.)
What then followed was no more than you trolling your tank for no reason.

So yeah, I'm curious- why would anyone think back on that when using Titan-egi for Thornmarch Extreme? The two scenarios don't exactly compare- you were just being pompous and self-entitled, whilst the Thornmarch Ex thing is actually an innovative use.

You have some serious hero syndrome.

[Ryans]

lol im curious how he world hold my aggro when im starting to dps with my brd... óo (most of the time im tanking with randoms... xD)

To be fair, most bards are just assholes when it comes to initial threat. Do they need to start off with full dps before the tank has enough time to even get a second weapon skill off? No, they do not. Bards are the only class that consistently takes threat at the beginning of pulls and it's not because they are some kind of godly dps. It's because they are a ranged, burst DD class with no casting times and fail to understand that tanks don't start out with a Rage of Halone or Butcher's Block as their first move.

[Alukah]

I'm just gonna say this, its friggin haukke manor. It can be duo'd (ive done it with archer/cnj) So if he is using bfb and getting more dps, who cares? Its making the dungeon go faster, heals arent heavily needed in that dungeon.

So what gives?

A lvl 29 marauder (obviously) lacking base stats given by the soul of the warrior, gear around his level or way under, not synced, taking extra damage from bfb, specially on pulls of 4 or 5, the fairy alone couldn't keep up with him.

Are you saying that a synced scholar with cleric stance, dots + bane all mobs would deal less dmg than a marauder with 10% from bfb? I really doubt he was making the run go faster.

I'm honestly wondering what would he do if it was BL instead of Haukke, I'm pretty sure he would have died with one hit from Aiatar.

For those still mentioning the level of the content, really what stops a misinformed person from misusing some skills if you don't tell them at early levels? Do we have to wait until coil to tell a tank they are not using flash enough / not using shield oath?

[Darus]

This post insults me! I happen to use Foresight AND Blood for Blood to remove the penalty, and do so in Turn 8! The sarcasm of this post insul.... oh WAIT! I'm a DRAGOON! hohohohohohohohoho!

[SinisterJoint]

A lvl 29 marauder (obviously) lacking base stats given by the soul of the warrior, gear around his level or way under, not synced, taking extra damage from bfb, specially on pulls of 4 or 5, the fairy alone couldn't keep up with him.

I'm not saying if he was misinformed or not, im saying its not a big deal. More dps is more dps, no matter how you slice it. Also, the point of a scholar is not to just let the fairy heal and the scholar dps. You making THAT statement makes you sounds just as misinformed. Going in as a scholar in lower dungeons, I also let the fairy heal and just dps. I do NOT however, go in and expect that I myself wont have to heal. The dungeons are boring enough aren't they?

It wasn't BL, it was haukke on normal mode.

Aside from that, it's simple. Advice was offered, they didn't take it. Why does it need to go further? Why does their need to be a post about it? Especially one as condescending as this? Title and all.... Drama queen

[alhandra]

i had a guy join my t5 learning PT as a warrior yesterday and asked if he could DPS(he was decked out in melded wolfram gear), as in, he wanted to take up a DPS slot as a warrior and still have 2 other real tanks. when i not so politely kicked him from my party he thru a big tantrum about how "i didnt even give him a chance"

heres the thing, tanks need to tank, first and foremost. if you come up with some great scheme to turn your tank into DPS thats great. but dont join parties with the intention of performing another role than the one you queued for or joined the PF for. you are taking up a slot that could be used be someone who actually wants to perform that role

dont get me wrong, the guy in my t5 group and the guy the OP is talking about are probably cool people with interesting ideas, i just think those kinds of things should be saved for grouping with friends and messing around. dont force your experiments on randoms in the DF or on people in the PF who are just trying to get a simple clear

[Asael]

Any time you hear "why are you using..." are you SERIOUSLY surprised people will be on the defensive?

"Why are you parking there?"
"Why do you look like that?"
"Why did you mark those?"

See how that sounds? I don't mean to be the Nanny here - please, a lot of us have thick skins. But any time you do "why are you" - you're just asking for it :P

If you're really bothered by questions, especially like those mentioned, you have some serious self-esteem issues rooted in insecurity.