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[Friske]

well, that's one way of hammering the brutal truth of no diversity at endgame what so ever. Even if his tone (and the archer's tone as well) was kind of unnecessary, he does have a point. As most offtanks are warriors anyway, their secondary job is to deal damage. Maybe not with Blood for blood though.
But why post this... what's the point of apparently 'humiliating' people who are obviously ignorant about how there is literally no customisation at endgame? You can blatantly tell that the guy is new, no shit. Tbh, I mostly blame it on the archer, it's people like him/her that just make the game worse. People like the marauder need to be taught in a calm manner. Not in some demeaning 'I am better than you' insult filled comment. But still, at least you stayed mature in that situation, maybe not in this forum post however.

[Asael]

well, that's one way of hammering the brutal truth of no diversity at endgame what so ever. Even if his tone (and the archer's tone as well) was kind of unnecessary, he does have a point. As most offtanks are warriors anyway, their secondary job is to deal damage. Maybe not with Blood for blood though.
But why post this... what's the point of apparently 'humiliating' people who are obviously ignorant about how there is literally no customisation at endgame? You can blatantly tell that the guy is new, no shit. Tbh, I mostly blame it on the archer, it's people like him/her that just make the game worse. People like the marauder need to be taught in a calm manner. Not in some demeaning 'I am better than you' insult filled comment. But still, at least you stayed mature in that situation, maybe not in this forum post however.

This ^

There's not really much of a point to this thread at all other than to vent some latent frustration with the issue. Sure we get that there are some out there who are unwilling to take constructive advice even when given in a very calm, polite, and subtle manner. I know as I've ran into more than my fair share of them as have others. But in all honesty the marauder is at least thinking creatively. In the role of someone who is the MT (which I would imagine was the case here) BFB isn't a very great idea for obvious reasons, but in the role of an OT it's a fairly decent idea in certain situations. For example in Titan HM through DF which needs two tanks to queue in the OT going in as a marauder utilizing more DPS abilities like BFB isn't a bad way of approaching the fight. In this case it would be best for them to go all out DPS as they're not going to need to worry about damage mitigation anyways (assuming the MT doesn't go down).

I think here concerning this issue we have someone who is thinking, but it just wasn't applied appropriately.

[Vahlnir]

I think here concerning this issue we have someone who is thinking, but it just wasn't applied appropriately.

I have no problems with people being creative, personally. Sometimes an idea is so crazy that it's pure genius. Where I have an issue with it is similar to what the OP experienced, where an idea really wasn't serving any purpose and the tank wouldn't even consider the possibility that they were wrong in any way, even with 2 other people trying to explain it to them. I won't agree with everything the archer said though because they certainly could have been more tactful, but the tank had a thick head on their shoulders and sometimes...there's just no getting through to some people.

[Chihaya]

Those chat logs...

Someone got a drop... and is a 29 Marauder

[Asael]

I have no problems with people being creative, personally. Sometimes an idea is so crazy that it's pure genius. Where I have an issue with it is similar to what the OP experienced, where an idea really wasn't serving any purpose and the tank wouldn't even consider the possibility that they were wrong in any way, even with 2 other people trying to explain it to them. I won't agree with everything the archer said though because they certainly could have been more tactful, but the tank had a thick head on their shoulders and sometimes...there's just no getting through to some people.

Indeed, but at the very least the marauder is doing a little bit better than some versus others who just simply spam the same one or two skills outside of combo over and over again. But yeah, the MRD could have definitely done better in handling the issue considering he/she was the one who pushed the conversation into its death spiral with the, "you're not too bright" line. No doubt this person could do better with more patience and less disinterest.

[Alistaire]

I have no problems with people being creative, personally. Sometimes an idea is so crazy that it's pure genius. Where I have an issue with it is similar to what the OP experienced, where an idea really wasn't serving any purpose and the tank wouldn't even consider the possibility that they were wrong in any way, even with 2 other people trying to explain it to them. I won't agree with everything the archer said though because they certainly could have been more tactful, but the tank had a thick head on their shoulders and sometimes...there's just no getting through to some people.

Sure, sometimes. In ffxi people thought at first pld/nin was a terrible idea for a tank, and then it became all you tanked with for the longest time. But this guy is 1. seriously overestimating how much foresight does and 2. painfully wrong about what a tank does when tanking in coil. He's right that some people go mrd as ot, but that's not a tanking discussion. It hurt my head to read his logic.

Same for most of the posts here though.

[PrimeEvilPanda]

And this as well ^

Any time you hear "why are you using..." are you SERIOUSLY surprised people will be on the defensive?

"Why are you parking there?"
"Why do you look like that?"
"Why did you mark those?"

See how that sounds? I don't mean to be the Nanny here - please, a lot of us have thick skins. But any time you do "why are you" - you're just asking for it :P

[ispano]

Any time you hear "why are you using..." are you SERIOUSLY surprised people will be on the defensive?

"Why are you parking there?"
"Why do you look like that?"
"Why did you mark those?"

See how that sounds? I don't mean to be the Nanny here - please, a lot of us have thick skins. But any time you do "why are you" - you're just asking for it :P

It sounds like they're asking a question. If you feel there's more to it than that when reading text, then you have issues.

[Asael]

Any time you hear "why are you using..." are you SERIOUSLY surprised people will be on the defensive?

"Why are you parking there?"
"Why do you look like that?"
"Why did you mark those?"

See how that sounds? I don't mean to be the Nanny here - please, a lot of us have thick skins. But any time you do "why are you" - you're just asking for it :P

If you're really bothered by questions, especially like those mentioned, you have some serious self-esteem issues rooted in insecurity.