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[Jacost]

See, this is the kind of thing I've wanted to see! People finding inventive ways to use classes over jobs in a viable way! Although I think the only other truly viable one would be Archer over Bard...

It's a shame that some people are so resistant to trying to do things any way but the known standard. So called "Elites" who've memorized all the standard strats and standard job cross-class skills who freak out upon seeing attempts to push the envelope and experiment a little. Letting the game fall into repetitive complacency isn't good for it!

/rant

[Najara]

See, this is the kind of thing I've wanted to see! People finding inventive ways to use classes over jobs in a viable way! Although I think the only other truly viable one would be Archer over Bard...

It's a shame that some people are so resistant to trying to do things any way but the known standard. So called "Elites" who've memorized all the standard strats and standard job cross-class skills who freak out upon seeing attempts to push the envelope and experiment a little. Letting the game fall into repetitive complacency isn't good for it!

/rant

I personally have been trying to do this with my Summoner. I'll use my Titan-egi to soak up adds, especially in lower level dungeons where say a Paladin doesn't have access to Shield Oath. Titan usually ends up getting hold of aggro and then the tanks proceed to freak out at me. 'U do know damage with Titan smn!' It's all ego, really. But for me using Titan egi just seems way more efficent than a Garuda without contagion. /shrug

[Asakura93]

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No, that's just like being a Hunter with Growl on, or a Warlock with Voidwalker pet.

Tanks want to do their job, and of course they'll start freaking out once they see that one or two mobs haven't gotten any aggro on them, because y'know they COULD be on the Healer or someone else, so they try to figure out who has the aggro, then find out it's the pet.
Then they start fighting the pet for aggro, which they can't win (at least not in low level dungeons).

I also hate it when some SMN thinks he has to use Topaz Carbuncle/Titan-egi. Just don't use it. It's not worth it.

[Najara]

No, that's just like being a Hunter with Growl on, or a Warlock with Voidwalker pet.

Tanks want to do their job, and of course they'll start freaking out once they see that one or two mobs haven't gotten any aggro on them, because y'know they COULD be on the Healer or someone else, so they try to figure out who has the aggro, then find out it's the pet.
Then they start fighting the pet for aggro, which they can't win (at least not in low level dungeons).

I also hate it when some SMN thinks he has to use Topaz Carbuncle/Titan-egi. Just don't use it. It's not worth it.

I don't know what either of those classes are but I'll assume it's from WoW. The reason they can't win the aggro is precisely why I do it in the first place. It's helping more than people want to admit and fighting against it is exactly what's wrong with the community in the first place. There ARE other strategies and they ARE just, if not more, efficient.

[Vahlnir]

I don't know what either of those classes are but I'll assume it's from WoW. The reason they can't win the aggro is precisely why I do it in the first place. It's helping more than people want to admit and fighting against it is exactly what's wrong with the community in the first place. There ARE other strategies and they ARE just, if not more, efficient.

Yes, it was a class from WoW, the "Archer/Bard" equivalent but able to use a pet. As to the rest of this post...I don't follow your logic at all. It doesn't help in any way, unless the tank is doing a poor job tanking. Otherwise it just causes problems. Yes there are different strategies, but making a tank compete with a tanking pet isn't efficient whatsoever.

[Najara]

Yes, it was a class from WoW, the "Archer/Bard" equivalent but able to use a pet. As to the rest of this post...I don't follow your logic at all. It doesn't help in any way, unless the tank is doing a poor job tanking. Otherwise it just causes problems. Yes there are different strategies, but making a tank compete with a tanking pet isn't efficient whatsoever.

Who said they needed to compete? You can't follow my logic because you refuse to think differently.

[Vahlnir]

Who said they needed to compete? You can't follow my logic because you refuse to think differently.

I can't follow it because it doesn't help in most situations. For the record I'm not closed minded enough to deny that something works even if it's unusual, or doesn't work like your methods. You won't meet a lot, if any tanks that are willing to deal with that. It actually makes their job harder which seems to be what you want to happen. I did take a look at your earlier post by the way...while your intentions are somewhat good, it does more harm than anything else. The post referring to a WoW Hunter having their pet's Growl on hit the nail on the head.