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    Silvanoshi's Avatar
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    Silvanoshi Starwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Actually, Foresight doesn't reduce incoming damage by anything close to 20%, so it doesn't really offset anything. Not to mention since he's not on Lancer it will only give him a 10% damage bonus, not 30%.
    I never said it did. You're making an assumption. I said he was trying to deal more DPS without suffering too much extra damage.. I'm not sure how you read that it was mitigating it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvanoshi View Post
    I never said it did. You're making an assumption. I said he was trying to deal more DPS without suffering too much extra damage.. I'm not sure how you read that it was mitigating it all.
    No, that's not what you said.

    This "It is a proper way to increase DPS (which makes the dungeon faster) without really suffering too much extra damage and making life for the healer horrible." is what you said. You didn't say he was trying, you said it's a proper way. And going with what you bolded and underlined, it's NOT a proper way. He gets 10% more damage output, and since Foresight is maybe 5% reduction at best, and only for physical, still taking at least 20% more damage while doing it. Probably closer to the full 25%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    No, that's not what you said.

    This "It is a proper way to increase DPS (which makes the dungeon faster) without really suffering too much extra damage and making life for the healer horrible." is what you said. You didn't say he was trying, you said it's a proper way. And going with what you bolded and underlined, it's NOT a proper way. He gets 10% more damage output, and since Foresight is maybe 5% reduction at best, and only for physical, still taking at least 20% more damage while doing it. Probably closer to the full 25%.
    "Proper" and "too much extra damage" is subject to opinion. The tank, again, was going out of his way to increase his DPS and mitigate incoming damage from B4B. Absolutely nothing wrong with what he did in a low level dungeon unless his healer was struggling to keep him healed.
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    Wait, so you're telling me this whole time I've been tanking wrong? Man, screw playing WAR, I should totally go back to playing MRD so i can use bfb. hells yeah!
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    Thats a whole new level of bad.
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    I'm just gonna say this, its friggin haukke manor. It can be duo'd (ive done it with archer/cnj) So if he is using bfb and getting more dps, who cares? Its making the dungeon go faster, heals arent heavily needed in that dungeon.

    So what gives?
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoint View Post
    I'm just gonna say this, its friggin haukke manor. It can be duo'd (ive done it with archer/cnj) So if he is using bfb and getting more dps, who cares? Its making the dungeon go faster, heals arent heavily needed in that dungeon.

    So what gives?
    It depends on the amount of pull and the healer actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoint View Post
    I'm just gonna say this, its friggin haukke manor. It can be duo'd (ive done it with archer/cnj) So if he is using bfb and getting more dps, who cares? Its making the dungeon go faster, heals arent heavily needed in that dungeon.

    So what gives?
    A lvl 29 marauder (obviously) lacking base stats given by the soul of the warrior, gear around his level or way under, not synced, taking extra damage from bfb, specially on pulls of 4 or 5, the fairy alone couldn't keep up with him.

    Are you saying that a synced scholar with cleric stance, dots + bane all mobs would deal less dmg than a marauder with 10% from bfb? I really doubt he was making the run go faster.

    I'm honestly wondering what would he do if it was BL instead of Haukke, I'm pretty sure he would have died with one hit from Aiatar.

    For those still mentioning the level of the content, really what stops a misinformed person from misusing some skills if you don't tell them at early levels? Do we have to wait until coil to tell a tank they are not using flash enough / not using shield oath?
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    Last edited by Alukah; 06-16-2014 at 07:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    A lvl 29 marauder (obviously) lacking base stats given by the soul of the warrior, gear around his level or way under, not synced, taking extra damage from bfb, specially on pulls of 4 or 5, the fairy alone couldn't keep up with him.
    I'm not saying if he was misinformed or not, im saying its not a big deal. More dps is more dps, no matter how you slice it. Also, the point of a scholar is not to just let the fairy heal and the scholar dps. You making THAT statement makes you sounds just as misinformed. Going in as a scholar in lower dungeons, I also let the fairy heal and just dps. I do NOT however, go in and expect that I myself wont have to heal. The dungeons are boring enough aren't they?

    It wasn't BL, it was haukke on normal mode.

    Aside from that, it's simple. Advice was offered, they didn't take it. Why does it need to go further? Why does their need to be a post about it? Especially one as condescending as this? Title and all.... Drama queen
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    Last edited by SinisterJoint; 06-16-2014 at 11:27 PM.

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    Darus Skybound
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    Midgardsormr
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    This post insults me! I happen to use Foresight AND Blood for Blood to remove the penalty, and do so in Turn 8! The sarcasm of this post insul.... oh WAIT! I'm a DRAGOON! hohohohohohohohoho!
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