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[Nouran]

the other guy in the party is making fun of him and calling him stupid and u ask him to not take it as an insult ?
if i was him i would harassed, flamed, trolled the hell out of u both

[Gormogon]

I remember those good ol days of classes. Was so fun then you hit 30 and everything changes.

Yet I like how an Archer complains to a Marauder. He isn't even a Bard. If the Archer was a Bard he could've played the song of his people.

[CrossSleet]

I too think Archer and OP was at fault here.
Of course used language wasnt needed but they could choose different words to advice him.
+ really...who cares much about low level dungeon? Anyone can tank sastasha. When i was playing with friends nobody was tankin and it was just fun. ''Elites'' are to rough nowadays... never tough you can be shitstormed at low level dungeons for using bad skills... its the same as Healers being mad for people who use cure on low level dungeons...but its just so fun.

[OPneedNerfs]

All these people who are in defense of the tank and flaming the OP, logic seems to bounce right off you people huh?

The OP started off with a simple question of "Why are you using blood for blood? "

If that in any way sounds offensive to you, don't bother replying, logic obviously bounces right off you.

The OP was replied with a "why wouldn't I? It increases damage which increases enmity".

The OP then tells the tank not to use that. Because gee, when the tank takes more damage, who has to take care of it? That's right, the healer. Who might that be in this case? OH RIGHT, THE OP.

Now the reply immediately after the OP tells the TANK to stop using blood for blood because he's taking more damage from it, was a nice, short "you not to bright are you".

For the slow ones, here's what a TANK is supposed to do.

"Tanking" occurs when the unit is intended to be the one taking damage (typically by being dangerous or detrimental, or using a game mechanic that forces it to be targeted), and secondly, to ensure that they can survive this damage through sheer health points or mitigation.

Sometimes I really wonder how people can make statements saying the OP was at fault even when:
1. The names are censored.
2. The facts are right there, even the way the sentences were worded.
3. The tank obviously has no clue about his role and decided to be a smartass about it.

Archer complains about tank using non optimal skill, admits to playing sub par on purpose because he'd rather chat with his LS. Who are we supposed to sympathize with again?

The poor healer(OP) who has to deal with all that shite.

[Scarletyoshi]

Archer complains about tank using non optimal skill, admits to playing sub par on purpose because he'd rather chat with his LS. Who are we supposed to sympathize with again?

[RaquelleAvarosa]

I am assuming that the Marauder is relatively geared (i90), it shouldn't be a problem if he's taking 25% more damage as the mobs isn't that painful to him in the first place. WAR/MRD's ability to self-heal is pretty high. I don't see any issue why using Blood for Blood as a MRD is "wrong". I wouldn't say that a MRD/WAR's job is to DPS and not tank, but if the situation allows the MRD to dps and tank at the same, why not?

[DkFusion]

This is LOL. If I were the marauder I would have used blood for blood as well. BFB/Bloodbath/overpower. Maybe even some internal release. It's pre-30 so what's the problem. If the archer is already doing sub optimal dps who wants to be stuck in there any longer and a paladin could cure anything before 30. Hell most healers cleric stance and dps low level dungeons. The tank may be guilty for being a douche in the matter of defending use of the skill but to even make a remark about him using blood for blood is pretty ignorant. All topped with a yummy comment about T9. Hauuke Manor is not T9. Everything about end-game raiding referenced in relation to lvl 30ish dungeon is mind blowing when people are defending the OP with talk of the use of logic.

[Alukah]

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Hey now, it's not like I was forcing the marauder to follow my advice, I continued healing him until the moment he left.

Why the level of the content matters for giving someone an advice? Or where is the ignorant part of giving advice to someone that may not know how a skill works? Also -again- he was the one who mentioned T9 when the archer was talking about blood for blood.

I don't understand why some people advices like a personal insult.

I am assuming that the Marauder is relatively geared (i90), it shouldn't be a problem if he's taking 25% more damage as the mobs isn't that painful to him in the first place. WAR/MRD's ability to self-heal is pretty high. I don't see any issue why using Blood for Blood as a MRD is "wrong". I wouldn't say that a MRD/WAR's job is to DPS and not tank, but if the situation allows the MRD to dps and tank at the same, why not?

It was a lvl 29 marauder, though not a newbie, only two classes left to get to 50.

I always check people's search info when a dungeon starts to know if i should or not say special boss mechanics (like moving aiatar for new tanks).

[RaquelleAvarosa]

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I see. I'm still sticking to what I said "if the situation allows the MRD to dps and tank at the same, why not?"

[Purrfectstorm]

I don't understand why some people advices like a personal insult.

Because tone matters.

Another thing to keep in mind is that in a competitive environment people tend to "act more certain than they feel". This quote is from the Thomas-Kilmann Conflict Mode Instrument. It's good reading, especially if you really DON'T understand why someone might act in a defensive manner when advice is given.

One last point about advice: the tank was a random player, to them, the other party members are random players also. So why should the tank assume any of the other party members' advice is WORTH taking?

On top of that, I happen to think that Blood For Blood from a MRD in a low level dungeon isn't that bad. When healers can DPS their way through it and tanks don't even need to use mitigation, Blood For Blood may be just fine.

Here's my piece of advice, don't let yourself get so worked up about these things and let people play the way they want. Even well-meant advice often comes across as condescending in a game environment. Did the tank ask for any of your advice - "Why am I taking so much damage?" No.