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  1. #21
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    Gormogon's Avatar
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Faerie
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I remember those good ol days of classes. Was so fun then you hit 30 and everything changes.

    Yet I like how an Archer complains to a Marauder. He isn't even a Bard. If the Archer was a Bard he could've played the song of his people.
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  2. #22
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    Cross Tia
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I too think Archer and OP was at fault here.
    Of course used language wasnt needed but they could choose different words to advice him.
    + really...who cares much about low level dungeon? Anyone can tank sastasha. When i was playing with friends nobody was tankin and it was just fun. ''Elites'' are to rough nowadays... never tough you can be shitstormed at low level dungeons for using bad skills... its the same as Healers being mad for people who use cure on low level dungeons...but its just so fun.
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  3. #23
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asael View Post
    I think here concerning this issue we have someone who is thinking, but it just wasn't applied appropriately.
    I have no problems with people being creative, personally. Sometimes an idea is so crazy that it's pure genius. Where I have an issue with it is similar to what the OP experienced, where an idea really wasn't serving any purpose and the tank wouldn't even consider the possibility that they were wrong in any way, even with 2 other people trying to explain it to them. I won't agree with everything the archer said though because they certainly could have been more tactful, but the tank had a thick head on their shoulders and sometimes...there's just no getting through to some people.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 06-16-2014 at 03:29 AM.
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  4. #24
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    Chihaya's Avatar
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Those chat logs...

    Someone got a drop... and is a 29 Marauder
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  5. #25
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    LoLo's Avatar
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LucySw View Post
    lol im curious how he world hold my aggro when im starting to dps with my brd... óo (most of the time im tanking with randoms... xD)
    Thing is, the Mar expects you to not take hate ever or if you do you have to tank the add yourself lol.
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  6. #26
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    OPneedNerfs's Avatar
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 80
    All these people who are in defense of the tank and flaming the OP, logic seems to bounce right off you people huh?

    The OP started off with a simple question of "Why are you using blood for blood? "

    If that in any way sounds offensive to you, don't bother replying, logic obviously bounces right off you.

    The OP was replied with a "why wouldn't I? It increases damage which increases enmity".

    The OP then tells the tank not to use that. Because gee, when the tank takes more damage, who has to take care of it? That's right, the healer. Who might that be in this case? OH RIGHT, THE OP.

    Now the reply immediately after the OP tells the TANK to stop using blood for blood because he's taking more damage from it, was a nice, short "you not to bright are you".

    For the slow ones, here's what a TANK is supposed to do.

    "Tanking" occurs when the unit is intended to be the one taking damage (typically by being dangerous or detrimental, or using a game mechanic that forces it to be targeted), and secondly, to ensure that they can survive this damage through sheer health points or mitigation.

    Sometimes I really wonder how people can make statements saying the OP was at fault even when:
    1. The names are censored.
    2. The facts are right there, even the way the sentences were worded.
    3. The tank obviously has no clue about his role and decided to be a smartass about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarletyoshi View Post
    Archer complains about tank using non optimal skill, admits to playing sub par on purpose because he'd rather chat with his LS. Who are we supposed to sympathize with again?
    The poor healer(OP) who has to deal with all that shite.
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    Last edited by OPneedNerfs; 06-16-2014 at 03:46 AM.

  7. #27
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    Scarletyoshi's Avatar
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    Carmine Cavatina
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    Hyperion
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    Archer complains about tank using non optimal skill, admits to playing sub par on purpose because he'd rather chat with his LS. Who are we supposed to sympathize with again?
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  8. #28
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    Asael Drakengard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I have no problems with people being creative, personally. Sometimes an idea is so crazy that it's pure genius. Where I have an issue with it is similar to what the OP experienced, where an idea really wasn't serving any purpose and the tank wouldn't even consider the possibility that they were wrong in any way, even with 2 other people trying to explain it to them. I won't agree with everything the archer said though because they certainly could have been more tactful, but the tank had a thick head on their shoulders and sometimes...there's just no getting through to some people.
    Indeed, but at the very least the marauder is doing a little bit better than some versus others who just simply spam the same one or two skills outside of combo over and over again. But yeah, the MRD could have definitely done better in handling the issue considering he/she was the one who pushed the conversation into its death spiral with the, "you're not too bright" line. No doubt this person could do better with more patience and less disinterest.
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  9. #29
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    RaquelleAvarosa's Avatar
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    Raquelle Rosalia
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I am assuming that the Marauder is relatively geared (i90), it shouldn't be a problem if he's taking 25% more damage as the mobs isn't that painful to him in the first place. WAR/MRD's ability to self-heal is pretty high. I don't see any issue why using Blood for Blood as a MRD is "wrong". I wouldn't say that a MRD/WAR's job is to DPS and not tank, but if the situation allows the MRD to dps and tank at the same, why not?
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  10. #30
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    Nook Ni
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    This is LOL. If I were the marauder I would have used blood for blood as well. BFB/Bloodbath/overpower. Maybe even some internal release. It's pre-30 so what's the problem. If the archer is already doing sub optimal dps who wants to be stuck in there any longer and a paladin could cure anything before 30. Hell most healers cleric stance and dps low level dungeons. The tank may be guilty for being a douche in the matter of defending use of the skill but to even make a remark about him using blood for blood is pretty ignorant. All topped with a yummy comment about T9. Hauuke Manor is not T9. Everything about end-game raiding referenced in relation to lvl 30ish dungeon is mind blowing when people are defending the OP with talk of the use of logic.
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