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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    My native language isn't English either, so what? Do I walk around in Eorzea, only talking in my language, make it obvious I'm talking bad behind the backs of some people and laugh at them because they can't understand me?
    Yay, silly generalization.

    This is not about Japanese, it's about people from any country: I think in such an international world we live in today, it's rather rude not even trying to learn a language you can communicate in with others.
    Try learning decently a different language that also has a different way of writing and completely different rules, tell me how easy it is. If you thik it's "rude" of them not to talk english, try to learn Japanese, or Chinese, or Arabic, or even just Russian. Then come back and tell me how easy it was.

    This without even mentioning that a Japanese that wants to write in english will even have to change input method on his keyboard, which, when you have to do it repeatedly, tends to be a hassle.
    Japanese players that talk to you in english, are extending a courtesy to you, you better stop taking it for granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Yay, silly generalization.
    Try learning decently a different language that also has a different way of writing and completely different rules, tell me how easy it is. If you thik it's "rude" of them not to talk english, try to learn Japanese, or Chinese, or Arabic, or even just Russian. Then come back and tell me how easy it was.
    No, not generalization.
    As I already said, the things I described are stuff that already happened to me

    Now for the "learn their language!" part..
    I am. I learned English and German; French enough to understand it, although too many years have passed since I learned it so I don't think I'm still able to write/talk in it myself.
    Currently, I'm learning Japanese (for work, not for gaming, but still).

    No, it's not easy. But at least I'm trying, although German, French and Japanese are not even languages that are spoken in many different parts of the world, like with English.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Japanese players that talk to you in english, are extending a courtesy to you, you better stop taking it for granted.
    I don't take it for granted, I'm just trying to point out that's how it should be all the time, and I'm sad it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    No, not generalization.
    As I already said, the things I described are stuff that already happened to me
    The fact that it happened to you once (or even a few times) and you describe it as something that is the norm is the by-the-book definition of a generalization.

    Now for the "learn their language!" part..
    I am. I learned English and German; French enough to understand it, although too many years have passed since I learned it so I don't think I'm still able to write/talk in it myself.
    Currently, I'm learning Japanese (for work, not for gaming, but still).

    No, it's not easy. But at least I'm trying, although German, French and Japanese are not even languages that are spoken in many different parts of the world, like with English.
    No. You didn't get it. I wasn't telling you to go learn their language. I was letting you understand that for them learning English, and speaking it correctly, is much more difficult than for us, because their native language is completely different from english, it has a completely different writing methods, and even their syllabic writing method is different from our phonetic one.

    So no, it's not some form of sacred duty for them to learn and speak English. They speak Japanese because many of them don't speak english well enough to be confortable with it, and on top of that there are technical hurdles (have to repeatedly switch input method is a hassle).

    I don't take it for granted, I'm just trying to point out that's how it should be all the time, and I'm sad it isn't.
    You saying that it's how it "should" be all the time is, again, the by-the-book definition of taking something for granted.

    Guess what? You're not entitled to have people from other countries speak in your language (or any other language of your choice). Sorry.
    If they decide to do so, they extend you a courtesy, if they don't, though luck.
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