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    IceSpear's Avatar
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    Ice Spear
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    When to use Flare?

    I was wondering when should I be using Flare, should I use it when there's more than 3 mobs?
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    Felendis Vreer
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    Always and for everything.
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    Kittitachi Uchiha
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    Agreed.
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    Altimis Farron
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    Aegis
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    When MP is not below certain threshold (the lowest amounts of MP allowed to use Flare) and you see more than single target
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    Kurara Mamegano
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Are there at least two enemies?
    Are you in Astral Fire?

    If both are yes, use Flare.
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    Kizuna Astin
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    all the above, plus
    for single target, if you have convert up, do Fire 3 > Fire1 till around 300mp > Flare > convert > Fire 1 > ice 3.

    also, if you know the boss will jump , (i.e. ex primal) just Swiftcast > Flare then transpose. you will have downtime after they jump anyway.

    make sure you Swift cast > Flare
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    very much agreed. Will also say at all cost try to avoid to flare after a transpose.
    As you do larger group of enemies you can then be doing triple flares
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    Player
    IceSpear's Avatar
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    Ice Spear
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    Odin
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    Should I make sure that I can use convert after a flare? And how would I triple flare @Maero?
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    Noctis Umbra
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    Oh yeah, and don't use Fire 2. Like, ever. As soon as you have Flare, it is obsolete.

    Learn the double Flare rotation. Love the double Flare rotation. Be the best you you can be.
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    Jet Brooks
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    Please correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it better to stick to a single-target rotation if there are only 2 mobs?

    Another time you can use flare is at the end of your single-target rotation if you have swiftcast & convert up. Of course you only want to do this if you don't need the swiftcast & convert up later for certain DPS checks.

    I wouldn't say never use Fire 2, because some tanks simply can't handle Flare spam, unfortunately. You may have to use Fire 2's in situations where the tank can't handle you generating hate as quickly as you will using Flare spam.
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