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  1. #61
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    Noahlimits's Avatar
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    Akira Ono
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacost View Post
    There are more efficient ways to get seals than dungeon gear. Just do GC quests in Mor Dhona for hour and you'll nearly hit the cap. Some people might actually need the gear.
    Or I can 'need' while doing my daily roulette's and get to eat my cake too. For anyone to say a party member (who put in just as much weight as others) shouldn't roll need on gear for seals.. you're totally welcome to your opinion. I just have a different opinion.

    I do, however, agree with most of the OP's other points/post.
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  2. #62
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    Poringing's Avatar
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    Yari Lanza
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Do be reminded that your (our) job is not to stop trolls/ elistists/ haters/ whatever. Your job is to be nice to transform data center A into data center B (see below):

    Data center A: 20% nasty ones, 70% indifferent ones, 10% nice ones
    Data center B: 20% nasty ones, 50% indifferent ones, 30% nice ones

    As a side note, do not spoon-feed newcomers by showering them with dungeon gear through random duty finder (you can craft for them, fund them and gear them through full pre-mades though). If you do that, expectations will change and the atma/ mirror drop rates will hit them even harder than it already is (illustrated below, unrealistic occurrence intended).

    "By the time it took me unlock roulette: expert I already got my full darklight set." Later...
    "Screw this game, 10 runs and no mirror for me. Lost mirror rolls twice to some idiots who won't help me gear up."
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    Last edited by Poringing; 06-17-2014 at 10:27 AM.

  3. #63
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    stupiddog's Avatar
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    Zazanima Mamanima
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Hell, even at low level dungeons, I've seen tanks saying "this is my first time, bear with me" first thing, instead of a Hi. It's like they are already being defensive, scared of being pointed at, which is sad.
    That does not necessarily have to be scared or defensive. In fact (as a DPS) I really appreciate if a player (esp. a tank) is honest when he is not yet fully competent in his role. The other players can incorporate that in their play, e.g. as a summoner, if I know that a tank might lose aggro, I can keep my finger near the "switch from Garuda-Egi to Titan-Egi" button, which might prevent a wipe. That does not mean that the new tank is freed from his duty to play to the best of his abilities; but if he does make a mistake and the party survives nevertheless, I consider it a win-win for both sides.

    Or if a player says "I am new in this dungeon", other players know that they should stop before a boss encounter and explain it to prevent a wipe. Really, it is good communication and saves everyone the frustration.
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    Last edited by stupiddog; 06-17-2014 at 06:13 PM.

  4. #64
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    Tyla_Esmeraude's Avatar
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by stupiddog View Post
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    Oh, I meant everyone else said Hi but her. It's fine she said that, just surprised me she didn't even say hi at all, and that that was all she said during the whole run. I thought she was too nervous to enjoy the run because of how mean people can be, since I got that impression. Usually you say hi, then the next thing. I hope that wasn't the case back then. ^^
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  5. #65
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    ruskie's Avatar
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Well know atleast a few people that get extremely nervous when running with people they aren't familiar with. Especially when with a class they aren't familiar with or rarely use. Or when experiencing something new. They will function normaly with a known group but as soon as there is one new person they need to adjust. This is why I enjoyed the endless wait pre DF. I could chat with everyone waiting there and actually get to know some of them that we might even run together. I ran quite a few dungeons that way though... Was near a dungeon and shouted around for ppl to join in - usually got a few. And I've met great people along the way. Some still on my friends list.
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  6. #66
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    stupiddog's Avatar
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    Zazanima Mamanima
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    Usually you say hi, then the next thing. I hope that wasn't the case back then. ^^
    Oh, ok, sorry, I got that wrong. :-)
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  7. #67
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    KahnyaRedx's Avatar
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    Kahnya Relix
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Leira_Raine View Post
    However, to my surprise, that person was halfway through the golem and turned right around to avoid autoattacking which stupefied me at first but I took the chance.
    I like this one...could have been me too as I'm a PLD on Hyperion and I always did that!

    I would say I'm guilty of being well lets say mean from time to time. But it's not usually right away. I don't mind typing out advice or tips. The problem is when someone is told to do something, and simply cannot. If it's a tougher instance, a little more understandable, but Pharos first boss, with the gun ability (long thin rectangle). You get hit once ok mistakes happen you get hit every time we have a problem.

    Lets face it, the reason we see so many people get angry over this content so quickly is because it's been out for long enough that people should know it. Even my friend (about a month new) is up to par on Brayflox speed runs.
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