So, where exactly do they even mention no Morale in Frontlines?

[zulu_kulu]

1. I am not lying rofl
2. Is there anything prohibiting people from even getting crafted sets?
3. And most important, so you could meld the 3rd offensive stat and maybe piety into that or some other silly crap like parry(ROFL to both) or again accuracy, how

1. yes you are. you said

How will it have any advantage of pvp gear, unless you consider accuracy an advantage in PvP lol.

by implying ivl 90 gear (especially for tanks) is mostly acc for its secondary stats when it isnt.

2.nothing, but by that logic what is prevent people getting pvp gear? also nothing, but FL is supposed to be a setting where there is no "extra" advantage outside your pve and pvp abilities. so needing to getting crafted pve or pvp gear so you can get an extra stat shouldnt be necessary.

3. again , stop being ignorant or intentionally obtuse. pvp ilvl gear have 3 stats without morale, if penta melded 4 or 5 if stack enhanced pvp trait. pve ilvl 90 gear have 4 stats, if penta meld it have 5 stats or 6 if stack enhance pvp traits. that is such a huge advantage that i can not explain it more. without morale, pvp gear is clearly inferior in FL, so no one smart will be rolling in fl with pvp gear, even fully penta melded.


edit since im out of posts for today

again my argument here on this forum : if FL is supposed to be a a place where everyone have to be synced, so we all are to be equal and what will win us the fight is solely our skills, then stuff like AP should be fully maxed out or restricted to baseline because it too provide advantage that new or lower players doesnt have. also btw, i'm not a "morale defender", i am though a "progression" defender. if gear is no longer the answer for that , then SE should replace it for something else. to keep the carrot and the stick going.morale was just today means for a carrot.

[Pibz]

Thanks for, once again, displaying that you've not read a single thing I've said when it comes to Morale.

If the difference in Morale is no different than the difference of a (removed) AP stats boost, why are you against such a Morale change but for AP?

As for i90 PvP Melds, there is an obvious advantage to melding a set of gear solely for a boost, and melding a set of gear to cover up for Morale and for a boost.

Again please elaborate how a pvp i90 penta melded with all the offensive stats loses to i90 pve melded with all the offensive stats.´
No one is talking about how one is harder to meld than the other because that depends on a lot of things one of them being market prices, and if you go by that then buying the i90 pve set could also be way more expensive and therefore unattainable by some.
I'm talking about pure stat differences, and there might be slight ridiculously insignificant differences in the worse stat for any role, not how one is cheaper or more expensive or more harder to meld than the other.

There is usually some ridiculously insignificant difference between some stats, like maybe for example +10-20 skill speed or a comparably useless stat(like skill speed) and if that' s what you guys are holding onto so much when you mean "advantage" i'm just going to leave it at that.

"If the difference in Morale is no different than the difference of a (removed) AP stats boost".. for the love of.. and i'm the one who doesn't read?!
Where did the ap thing even come from?! OMFG..
I was saying the freaking opposite, i was saying how having +30 on det/crit/etc(re-read please it says secondary not primary or are you going to say 25 of det = 25 str too?) has no comparison in any stretch to having THAT + 300 morale advantage(this one being highly more powerful), please refute this.

Also understand this already, NO ONE cares about your previous posts/ideas when what is being discussed is another thing entirely, no one is saying it would be more or less fair if your ideals of morale or whatever came to fruition, that is NOT the point...

[Pibz]

1. yes you are. you said

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3. again , stop being ignorant or intentionally obtuse. pvp ilvl gear have 3 stats without morale, if penta melded 4 or 5 if stack enhanced pvp trait. pve ilvl 90 gear have 4 stats, if penta meld it have 5 stats or 6 if stack enhance pvp traits. that is such a huge advantage that i can not explain it more. without morale, pvp gear is clearly inferior in FL, so no one smart will be rolling in fl with pvp gear, even fully penta melded.

Yeah learn to read what i say, i'm done talking to a wall, unless you actually answer my point(how the pve penta melded having +10-20 of the worst possible stat in any given gear could even come close to being as op as having more 250+ morale), cya.

[Caly]

Bonjour à tous,

En effet, la statistique Moral ne sera pas prise en compte dans le Front.

D’autre part, la synchronisation du niveau d’objet est toujours en cours d’ajustement et sera de 80 ou 90.

Dès que j’obtiens plus de détails, je ne manquerai pas de les partager avec vous.

From a french modo

--> PVE Gear > PVP Gear in frontlines, because any "useless secondary" stat will be better than a "TOTALLY useless" morale stat.

[zulu_kulu]

Yeah learn to read what i say, i'm done talking to a wall, unless you actually answer my point(how the pve penta melded having +10-20 of the worst possible stat in any given gear could even come close to being as op as having more 250+ morale), cya.

i thought i did answer your question , but ok i will try again:

in the case of a penta meld pve gear secondary stats(even of the worst possible stat, which again is nonsense since alot of pve crafted gear secondary stat is pretty good for dps. the only one i think is useless is JUST accuracy and besides drg and maybe mnk, most gear doesnt have accuracy on it ) being a unfair advantage/better to a 250+ morale gear in FRONTLINES is due to the fact that the morale stat is useless (and that is a what we are talking about here btw FRONTLINES, not WOLVES DEN) and therefore instantly makes pve crafted gear superior by having an extra stat, which increase the your overall performance in FL.by missing one stat on your gear, it would be foolish to bring pvp gear, even penta melded in FL. now if we were talking about WOLVES DENS, then you would be correct, a penta pve gear is vastly inferior to the 250+ morale stat that amplifies the other stats on the gear.however, we are not talking about WD, now are we?

look at the flow of the conversation

French GM confirme no morale in frontline content !!! And maybe ilvl sync will up from 80 to 90.

Yay, then everyone can complain about people with Wolfram/Cashmere/etc. penta melds having an advantage!

How will it have any advantage OVER pvp gear, unless you consider accuracy an advantage in PvP lol.
Also what makes you believe melds won't work in iLvL sync.....

edit i just reread the 3th point and if you think piety,which is damn good for healer to prevent yourself from going mp dry faster and parry, which is also good because its shaves of dmg for a melee dps or tank is useless, well that all i need to know that you are full of crap.

[Edenlys]

True, we should go stuff in PvE for PvP content....
I there reason to doubt researchers from Square Enix ? An idea of the trainee, I guess

[CeveArthu]

piety,which is damn good for healer to prevent yourself from going mp dry faster

Piety is pretty worthless, the scholar is infinite mp anyway and the white mage now has more than enough from mana draw and shroud

[zulu_kulu]

Piety is pretty worthless, the scholar is infinite mp anyway and the white mage now has more than enough from mana draw and shroud

the sch ok ,with aetherflow and that drain attack but the whm... unless im keep getting paired with really bad whms who lacked mp management, they always seems to hit that "dry" point after the 4 minute mark in a match.but if you say so, my whm is only lvl 34.

[CeveArthu]

the sch ok ,with aetherflow and that drain attack but the whm... unless im keep getting paired with really bad whms who lacked mp management, they always seems to hit that "dry" point after the 4 minute mark in a match.but if you say so, my whm is only lvl 34.

As long as they alternate the cooldowns of shroud and mana draw its really hard to run out of mana unless they are spamming regen every second