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    I'm normally not against people making requests but this feature, there's a damn good reason they didn't add it in. It's a horrible idea. Think about the negatives..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    Other than cost the negatives are non existant. Any slurs etc, well it's the same risk you take stepping outside your door and going out for the evening. You can't control others. The benefits however are overwhelmingly positive, and not just for ps users. F2P games can do it, a sub game certainly should be able to. Not to mention not having it built in divides the community. The good voice chat services are vent, mumble, and teamspeak. This means that ps users have to be at a computer anyways. Kind of counter productive.
    You clearly don't know how trashy people get over voice coms when they're protected by anonymity. Text chat people behave better for some reason but over voice com I've ran into some really trashy people who harassed me and said vulgar things to me just for being a girl.
    At least over text there's still the ambiguity that protect me since I generally don't mention my gender.

    I will admit, this is a minority and most guys are respectful... But it's still an issue for girls.
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    Last edited by AmyNeudaiz; 06-14-2014 at 02:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    I'm normally not against people making requests but this feature, there's a damn good reason they didn't add it in. It's a horrible idea. Think about the negatives..
    Other than cost the negatives are non existant. Any slurs etc, well it's the same risk you take stepping outside your door and going out for the evening. You can't control others. The benefits however are overwhelmingly positive, and not just for ps users. F2P games can do it, a sub game certainly should be able to. Not to mention not having it built in divides the community. The good voice chat services are vent, mumble, and teamspeak. This means that ps users have to be at a computer anyways. Kind of counter productive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    Other than cost the negatives are non existant. Any slurs etc, well it's the same risk you take stepping outside your door and going out for the evening. You can't control others.
    O_O

    You think people behave the same anonymously online as they do in person on the street?
    Really?
    You really think this?
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    yes !!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by givemeraptors View Post
    O_O

    You think people behave the same anonymously online as they do in person on the street?
    Really?
    You really think this?
    You do get some more ______ online, but it's a risk in any public setting. I've played games with built in voice chat for 3 or 4 years now. This game feels half a decade behind the times to me with how it doesn't have it built in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    You do get some more ______ online, but it's a risk in any public setting. I've played games with built in voice chat for 3 or 4 years now. This game feels half a decade behind the times to me with how it doesn't have it built in.
    So we should all just bend over and take any and all harassment because it's 2014. Heaven forbid that there's laws in many countries, mine included, against verbal abuse and that it's been proven ad nauseaum that verbal abuse can and does have detrimental effects on others. Especially when directed against young children who haven't had the benefit of the mental hardening of adulthood (that is, as we get older words 'should' have less and less of an impact on our psyche because we 'know better'). Afraid I can't agree with you at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post
    "no because girls are scared" is the SE response.
    And again, it's not even just that. Another, more appropriate, example (and again, warning for vulgar language).
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    Last edited by Gilraen; 06-14-2014 at 04:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    Other than cost the negatives are non existant. Any slurs etc, well it's the same risk you take stepping outside your door and going out for the evening. You can't control others. The benefits however are overwhelmingly positive, and not just for ps users. F2P games can do it, a sub game certainly should be able to. Not to mention not having it built in divides the community. The good voice chat services are vent, mumble, and teamspeak. This means that ps users have to be at a computer anyways. Kind of counter productive.
    WONT ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN

    there this app called ventroid or something if your worries are the PS/PC voice chat that fixes it
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    I think the development team mentioned that they will never be doing any voice chat system in-game. Reasons being:
    1. Potential for harassment (I'm pretty sure everyone will turn it off in DF for obvious reasons)
    2. Potential to kill role-plays
    3. (Most important) It will take resources away from other areas of the game to make something that will most likely suck <a game company trying to make a voice chat program better than voice chat program companies>
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
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    You clearly don't know how trashy people get over voice coms when they're protected by anonymity. Text chat people behave better for some reason but over voice com I've ran into some really trashy people who harassed me and said vulgar things to me just for being a girl.
    snipl... But it's still an issue for girls.
    I have never ever encountered any trash talk towards females in any game using voice comms or something like TS, and I've been mmorpging since UO.

    By the way PS3/4 people can use the app on a smartphone for TS. (somebody else's post about PS3/4 people not being able to use voice comms)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosy View Post
    I have never ever encountered any trash talk towards females in any game using voice comms or something like TS, and I've been mmorpging since UO.

    By the way PS3/4 people can use the app on a smartphone for TS. (somebody else's post about PS3/4 people not being able to use voice comms)
    Is the TS app ios and android do you know? This is the first I've heard of that.
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