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    Richiealvian's Avatar
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    Rinoa Heartily
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I don't really understand what you're getting into, you have the opportunity to get a weapon that is slightly below what can be obtained by tackling the game's hardest content, which is always upgradable to one tier below the hardest content in each and every patch and would be the best of that tier because of customizability and you think it's not worth it? Well, what are you going to use the weapon for? Levequests?

    Not to mention almost anything you do (aside from atma) will slightly further your progression on each phase of it? Technically with enough dedication you can get it within the first week of it coming out, too. How is this bad? It's not like they force you to do it? But you want epic loot, there you have it, put some effort into it?
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    Gardes's Avatar
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Richiealvian View Post
    you have the opportunity to get a weapon that is slightly below what can be obtained by tackling the game's hardest content, which is always upgradable to one tier below the hardest content in each and every patch and would be the best of that tier because of customizability and you think it's not worth it?
    As I've said, tome weapon takes less time and less tedious and at the end of it, you only have the secondary stat to compare with. The weapon damage is the same, the primary stat is the same, the vitality is the same, only the secondary stats are different and you probably already know that weapon damage and primary stat is worth much much more than a secondary stat. I feel that any secondary stat advantage (if the tome weapon secondary stats are worthless) is not worth all this trouble players go through. Even if I'm supporting the degree of the grind we currently have, the reward is not justified.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richiealvian View Post
    Technically with enough dedication you can get it within the first week of it coming out, too.
    Technically, you can get the i110 tome weapon in 3 weeks after it came out, which was like 2 months ago. i110 novus came out like a week ago. By the time a player gets a novus, he would have probably attained his tome weapon and made use of it for a while. Any sense of boost you get from the animus will be near minimal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richiealvian View Post
    But you want epic loot, there you have it, put some effort into it?
    Not only would the HA weapons are more 'epic', it's more fun to put effort into.
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    Themis's Avatar
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Or perhaps the dozen or so other MMO's who managed to toe this line perfectly fine and still make the grind fun and interesting. It doesn't need to be nearly as boring as it currently is.

    That said, once you've got Atma the 'grind' does become at least a little more interesting (myth notwithstanding) rather than mindlessly spamming the same low level, no-reward Fates you've been getting tired of since level 30.
    I have not been bored once in the whole quest line, so that's completely subjective and entirely based on your approach to the weapons.

    The relic upgrade is something you can (if you love to push a grind hard) do very quickly, or you can do very slowly. Since it started, I'm currently on my 7th Animus book for my first weapon. Some people had finished this within a crazy short time. But really, it's also there for players who don't have the will or time to commit to pushing Coil 2, and these players are naturally going to be taking their time with the whole thing. The overall results are quite nice, but definitely not needed, for a player like myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Technically, you can get the i110 tome weapon in 3 weeks after it came out, which was like 2 months ago. i110 novus came out like a week ago. By the time a player gets a novus, he would have probably attained his tome weapon and made use of it for a while. Any sense of boost you get from the animus will be near minimal.
    I have yet to do any Coil, so I'm as far from an i100 tome weapon as I am the i110 version. I'll likely have my Novus before I even get to having such a weapon - in fact, I'd be getting a tome weapon for a different job than my main. Not everyone is capable (for many reasons) of just hopping into Coil and getting their weapons from there. But for those who can do that, they have already had access to better weapons and those are there for those players. The Novus is something that hardcore grinders can get pretty quickly (probably just as quick as beelining for an i110 tome weapon), or that casual/midcore players can simply progress towards. And this lets the latter type keep up over a longer period of time, assuming they keep up with it.
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