How hard is it to get Animus now?

[Seif]

I guess people have hard time wrappung their head around the concept of "long term content".

Yes you can do 99,9% of quests in a single play session but not this one thing.

[AmyNeudaiz]

I guess people have hard time wrappung their head around the concept of "long term content".

Yes you can do 99,9% of quests in a single play session but not this one thing.

I don't think you understand why people have issues with the Atma quest. It's not that it takes long. It's getting Atma's that annoy people.

[Felis]

I don't think you understand why people have issues with the Atma quest. It's not that it takes long. It's getting Atma's that annoy people.

Wrong topic
This topic is about Animus

topic: the only thing that got nerfed is the Three Sisters FATE

[Lovescake]

I don't think you understand why people have issues with the Atma quest. It's not that it takes long. It's getting Atma's that annoy people.

i dont think you know the issue with the animus quest.

the issue isnt getting the atma's. its waiting on fates.

[BloodPact]

I don't think you understand why people have issues with the Atma quest. It's not that it takes long. It's getting Atma's that annoy people.

The OP is talking about the Animus. I don't think you understood the OP.

[Gardes]

I guess people have hard time wrappung their head around the concept of "long term content".

Yes you can do 99,9% of quests in a single play session but not this one thing.

Long term content would be very valid if the end reward is very satisfying and extreme. Currently the relic line is only 2nd best. What's worse is that the relic is a weapon line that is for everyone and it's just about the only option for a casual player. It's not a new set of weapons that screams that this isn't for certain players that enjoy the grind. The other alternative for the same ilvl requires much less work (a 3 week soldiery cap and one round of t6-t8 and in the time you take to cap those solds you can pass the tomes and sands among 3 dps). You can argue that novus would have better secondary stats than the tome weapons but that is seriously way too small of an advantage when compared to the effort load. Hell, in three weeks or so CT2 will be introduced and it's very possible you'll be able to get that i110 tome weapon without ever going to coil and it'll be 3 weeks of sold cap and probably consuming your weekly allotment of CT drops for the tome and sand.

You can argue that the relic line can grow but it'll always grow slower than the item level jumps from coil. Coil going players have no time wait for novus to use it on 2nd coil. Remember, when we first reached lvl 50 we'd have an i55 or i60 and then tackled 1st coil with an i80 weapon or i90, the same weapon level as the allagan weapons until they bumped it to i95. We now start the i115 2nd coil with an i90. The i110 novus and tome weapons would be more in line with what we had as an i90 back then. But since the relic weapons will never be stronger than the latest allagan weapons, and since allagan weapons seem to jump every 20 ilvls, the relics will have 20 ilvls to catch up the moment a new coil increases.

Now look at what we have so far. i90 zenith > i100 atma (still technically i90 > i100 animus (actual damage upgrade) > i110 novus (customization). The amount of effort needed to go up 20 ilvls is simply humongous and it would still take way longer than any other possible new weapon path unless square suddenly decides to stop offering new weapons other than allagan and relic past i115. We have no idea where and when the ilvl increases will stop because yoship abhors horizontal progression so it's possible that the relic will just keep growing to something like i130(coil ends)/150 (some new hardcore 8 man starts)/170/190 or whatever and it'll still never reach the moment where it's the paragon of all weapons of its type.

How can you in good faith say that this will all be worth it in the end?