How hard is it to get Animus now?

[Felis]

I don't think you understand why people have issues with the Atma quest. It's not that it takes long. It's getting Atma's that annoy people.

Wrong topic
This topic is about Animus

topic: the only thing that got nerfed is the Three Sisters FATE

[Lovescake]

I don't think you understand why people have issues with the Atma quest. It's not that it takes long. It's getting Atma's that annoy people.

i dont think you know the issue with the animus quest.

the issue isnt getting the atma's. its waiting on fates.

[BloodPact]

I don't think you understand why people have issues with the Atma quest. It's not that it takes long. It's getting Atma's that annoy people.

The OP is talking about the Animus. I don't think you understood the OP.

[Gardes]

I guess people have hard time wrappung their head around the concept of "long term content".

Yes you can do 99,9% of quests in a single play session but not this one thing.

Long term content would be very valid if the end reward is very satisfying and extreme. Currently the relic line is only 2nd best. What's worse is that the relic is a weapon line that is for everyone and it's just about the only option for a casual player. It's not a new set of weapons that screams that this isn't for certain players that enjoy the grind. The other alternative for the same ilvl requires much less work (a 3 week soldiery cap and one round of t6-t8 and in the time you take to cap those solds you can pass the tomes and sands among 3 dps). You can argue that novus would have better secondary stats than the tome weapons but that is seriously way too small of an advantage when compared to the effort load. Hell, in three weeks or so CT2 will be introduced and it's very possible you'll be able to get that i110 tome weapon without ever going to coil and it'll be 3 weeks of sold cap and probably consuming your weekly allotment of CT drops for the tome and sand.

You can argue that the relic line can grow but it'll always grow slower than the item level jumps from coil. Coil going players have no time wait for novus to use it on 2nd coil. Remember, when we first reached lvl 50 we'd have an i55 or i60 and then tackled 1st coil with an i80 weapon or i90, the same weapon level as the allagan weapons until they bumped it to i95. We now start the i115 2nd coil with an i90. The i110 novus and tome weapons would be more in line with what we had as an i90 back then. But since the relic weapons will never be stronger than the latest allagan weapons, and since allagan weapons seem to jump every 20 ilvls, the relics will have 20 ilvls to catch up the moment a new coil increases.

Now look at what we have so far. i90 zenith > i100 atma (still technically i90 > i100 animus (actual damage upgrade) > i110 novus (customization). The amount of effort needed to go up 20 ilvls is simply humongous and it would still take way longer than any other possible new weapon path unless square suddenly decides to stop offering new weapons other than allagan and relic past i115. We have no idea where and when the ilvl increases will stop because yoship abhors horizontal progression so it's possible that the relic will just keep growing to something like i130(coil ends)/150 (some new hardcore 8 man starts)/170/190 or whatever and it'll still never reach the moment where it's the paragon of all weapons of its type.

How can you in good faith say that this will all be worth it in the end?

[Rufalus]

You are right to feel this way and yes there is still some pain associated with getting through it. I've put in a suggestion to make dungeons more dynamic so that we aren't playing the same thing hundreds of times to complete our weapon progression.

[Gormogon]

It's not hard it's very time consuming. I was farming a second set and leaving it my bags ready for the new jobs but seeing as how it's not even gonna be until 2.4 and that not even being until the end of the year. I'd rather have that free inventory space.

[Limecat]

It's the same, and if you think that's bad:
For the Novus upgrade, you need to farm 75 alexandrites. To get them, you have to do a special type of treasure map that you can get once per day(most fights are easily soloed, a few will tear you apart in seconds). Assuming you don't fail, you get one from that. They also drop the same way as the atma, but equip an animus weapon instead of a zenith. Once you have alex, you get to start slotting materia onto a special scroll(that also costs 1500 myth to get). They get melded similar to gear, though you don't jump straight to 45% chance of success. The alexandrite takes the place of carbonized matter.

You can put whatever secondary stats you like on the scroll, and for each fourth of the total possible cap for a given stat, you have to start using the next highest grade of materia. This means you will need a minimum of 11 grade 4 crit materia if you wanted to max that on your weapon, for example; and probably a lot more, since you'll be breaking some trying to meld. Then once you finally get the scroll finished with 75 materia glued to it, you get your upgraded weapon with its core stat, VIT, and the secondaries you chose along with a damage upgrade to Lv110-tier. This weapon is not as good as the ones you can get(relatively speaking) more easily by running Coil2.

[ChriZirhC]

[Kuroyasha]

[Soulscar]

I have no issue with the long winded nature of this quest. Yoshi said (and I hope it turns out to be true) that the end result will be something that rewards those who have put in the effort and time. So...probably so nice sparkle effect lol. But yeah, I like the journey of this quest...and I like that it's a b*tch to get.

It's funny, when the game launched people were complaining about how easy it was to get the relic weapon. back then we didn't know the true nature of what was to come haha. No so easy now is it!?