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    Serious Question: Does SE sell Gil now?

    Yes, really serious about that. IMO it will be the 3rd patch in a row now that favors rich people.

    1) Remove Philo Tomes and replace them with Mythos, Mythos are of course harder to get. I noticed this on my healer: Gearing up at 50 became much harder. You need 2-3x the time now to get tome gear, and drops are horrible. It's probably the best to just buy something from the marketboard.

    2) Relic quest: Go and spirit bond tons of gear or, well: Marketboard

    3) Chocobo breeding: Does your FC own a house? No? Thats sad....




    -> 1: Motivate new (/casual) players to buy gil
    -> 2: Motivate old (/medi/hardcore) players to buy gil
    -> 3: Motivate communities to buy gil


    I'm really starting to wonder if SE wants RMT, every bot and every gil seller still pays real money for the account at least.... Maybe it's just my bad memory from playing Lineage 2....
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    OMG people need gils, they have to RMT it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyuki-Hime View Post

    1) Remove Philo Tomes and replace them with Mythos, Mythos are of course harder to get. I noticed this on my healer: Gearing up at 50 became much harder. You need 2-3x the time now to get tome gear, and drops are horrible.
    What? They made it take longer to get i90 tome gear than it took to get i70? What the hell were they thinking when they brain stormed that one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    What? They made it take longer to get i90 tome gear than it took to get i70? What the hell were they thinking when they brain stormed that one?
    Technically speaking, Myth gear is now much easier to get than philo gear (darklight). So actually right now it's faster and easier to get i90 than it is to get i70 which is, in it's own way, severely broken.
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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Technically speaking Myth gear is now much easier to get than philo gear (darklight). So actually right now it's faster and easier to get i90 than it is to get i70 which is, in it's own way, severely broken.
    if gear is you main focus then i agree, considering roulettes and speed runs. but if you are primarily fixated on relic, then probably not. also if philosophy tomes were still in the game and used as a means to acquire dark light like it used to be, i'm pretty certain they would have scaled up the distribution of them to coincide with the current myth value of the dungeons. fact remains, i think op is just desperately reaching out for random points to back up their statement.

    also with the current system, dark light dropping in dungeons to use as filler while you're farming your myth gear makes gearing up at 50 much easier
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    Last edited by Kolaina; 06-13-2014 at 05:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Technically speaking, Myth gear is now much easier to get than philo gear (darklight). So actually right now it's faster and easier to get i90 than it is to get i70 which is, in it's own way, severely broken.
    Do you mean to SR brayflow? With gear you "cheated" up with 1 accessoire to hit i55?

    Main story roulette before gave 300 Philos, 100 for low level. Thats at least 1 accessoire item/day even for the most casual player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyuki-Hime View Post
    Do you mean to SR brayflow? With gear you "cheated" up with 1 accessoire to hit i55?

    Main story roulette before gave 300 Philos, 100 for low level. Thats at least 1 accessoire item/day even for the most casual player.
    no, in 2.0 there was no roulette, you had to run 4 story dungeon for an i70acc, couldnt run AK if you didn't have several DL gear, need more than one week of cap for a single acc, 3 for body or legs(i90).
    now you can get one acc/week, body legs in2 runing WP in ilvl50 gear.
    for your alts (dont spend sold. on it) you can farm coil/Ex for i90(also giv myth/sold).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyuki-Hime View Post
    Thats what I meant. I used my BLM to farm Mythos for my WHM but new players have it harder the way it is now, which I find somewhat unfair.
    no it's not, its only if they want to make their anima in the same time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    What? They made it take longer to get i90 tome gear than it took to get i70? What the hell were they thinking when they brain stormed that one?
    Of course it takes longer to get because the ilvl is higher, maybe i was unclear here: Before you could easily farm low/main story roulette to get tomes, get some items and do nice WP/Amdapor etc runs. Once you had some more items go CT and then coil. People who play a lot get through this fast, slow players still get it just slower. When my healer hit 50 I did not have the tomes to buy him gear and started working on it. It takes quite longer, and when you have the gear to run expert lvl dungeons (you still need a party that does not kick you because you cannot SR then...) you hope for drops to speed up buuuut: I got 36 different i70 items (I kept them for further classes) and exactly 2 of them are for healers. Not to mention all the mats and doubles, this is just to much RNG to rely on.

    When you start the game now you will face some nice grind once you hit 50 just to get the content old players got "gifted" before. But hey, since there are 3* crafts now the 2* crafts got cheaper. Well, a new player won't have the money then but you know, there is this guy behind the corner in the dark alley....

    Maybe I'm a total moron here, but I do think new players should have more options to gear up to i90 (and by that I do *not* mean they should get i90 for free, like Mythos at the same rate Philos had).
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    You can get lv 70 gears from dungeons, lv 80 gear from CT,
    moreover those places provide ToM that you need for buying lv 90 gear.

    Also you get more ToM, ToS from daily roulettes bonus

    Tell me why is it very hard for you to gear up ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOnni3 View Post
    You can get lv 70 gears from dungeons, lv 80 gear from CT,
    moreover those places provide ToM that you need for buying lv 90 gear.

    Also you get more ToM, ToS from daily roulettes bonus

    Tell me why is it very hard for you to gear up ?
    There's actually kind of a hurdle in that respect, when you first bring a class to 50. If you're comfortable with CT you can take off like a rocket, but the postgame dungeons can be pretty nasty when undergeared sometimes, and even if you're lucky enough to get drops don't exactly accelerate you quickly. Once you get going - having a couple good i90 pieces, having your melded relic in progress, etc. - you can start going quite quickly, and it's easy to pick up spare drops to gear up alternate classes. But the "starting postgame" bump is something a few friends of mine have reported feeling to me.
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